Medieval style helmet

Marius66 · 9th August 2024, 11:03 AM

Good day dear members,

I will soon receive this helmet,
I have only these pictures for the moment.
But it seems not bad
Said to come from.a castle but I didn't pay too much
because it can be à 19th copy and I'm not a specialist
( and there are 19th and maybe even 20th helmets in castles 😅 )

Style can be german ?? but etched decorations reminds me italian renaissance armors / shields.
Weight is 3.3 kg

Any advice ?
Kind regards

ulfberth · 9th August 2024, 06:10 PM

Hi Marius , that is a typical example of a 19th c helmet , in the 19th c neo renaissance period, they made these to decorate the castles as they did with furniture,
kind regards
Ulfberth

Marius66 · 9th August 2024, 09:24 PM

Thank you Ulfberth for your message,

I hope it is not that bad, basic/standard made
I will post some pictures and close up when I receive it

Kind regards

Marius66 · 14th August 2024, 10:45 PM

I finally received the helmet
and I think I am subscribed to questionable products,
the equation: sale on the Internet without seeing the product + fairly attractive price for an original model often rhymes with unpleasant surprises, ...
some elements seem well made, the helmet shell sounds like steel, the same goes for the gorget, but the removable mezail plates are thinner than it seemed and appear to be made of basic sheet of metal,
well a decorative helmet of average quality except the acid engravings and the patina which seem to have se age.
There is a crack on the top of the helmet which I think was filled with tin.
What do you think of studs and rivets inside the helmet?
I know we don't usually talk about money on the site but I received an offer to sell it and I think I could sell it. you can tell me what you think the price is by PM message.

Kind regards

Marius66 · 14th August 2024, 10:47 PM

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ulfberth · 16th August 2024, 05:33 PM

This skull is original 17th c, they used the pot from an savoyard type helmet or an Enlish style of pot helmet than they attached the other parts to make a complete decorative helmet.
This was common in the 19th c , sometimes you can find original blades in 19th c rapier or sword guards it was cheaper to use old (damaged) parts if they had them.
You can clearly see the difference on the surface on the inside of the helmet, the 19th c parts are not made in the 16th c manner, the tin repair is also something they did 100 years, in the 16th and 17th century they did not use tin repairs.
Kind regards
Ulfberth

9th August 2024, 11:03 AM	#1
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 103	Medieval style helmet Good day dear members, I will soon receive this helmet, I have only these pictures for the moment. But it seems not bad Said to come from.a castle but I didn't pay too much because it can be à 19th copy and I'm not a specialist ( and there are 19th and maybe even 20th helmets in castles 😅 ) Style can be german ?? but etched decorations reminds me italian renaissance armors / shields. Weight is 3.3 kg Any advice ? Kind regards Attached Images

14th August 2024, 10:45 PM	#4
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 103	I finally received the helmet and I think I am subscribed to questionable products, the equation: sale on the Internet without seeing the product + fairly attractive price for an original model often rhymes with unpleasant surprises, ... some elements seem well made, the helmet shell sounds like steel, the same goes for the gorget, but the removable mezail plates are thinner than it seemed and appear to be made of basic sheet of metal, well a decorative helmet of average quality except the acid engravings and the patina which seem to have se age. There is a crack on the top of the helmet which I think was filled with tin. What do you think of studs and rivets inside the helmet? I know we don't usually talk about money on the site but I received an offer to sell it and I think I could sell it. you can tell me what you think the price is by PM message. Kind regards Attached Images

14th August 2024, 10:47 PM	#5
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 103	. Attached Images

9th August 2024, 06:10 PM	#2
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 401	Hi Marius , that is a typical example of a 19th c helmet , in the 19th c neo renaissance period, they made these to decorate the castles as they did with furniture, kind regards Ulfberth

9th August 2024, 09:24 PM	#3
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 103	Thank you Ulfberth for your message, I hope it is not that bad, basic/standard made I will post some pictures and close up when I receive it Kind regards

16th August 2024, 05:33 PM	#6
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 401	This skull is original 17th c, they used the pot from an savoyard type helmet or an Enlish style of pot helmet than they attached the other parts to make a complete decorative helmet. This was common in the 19th c , sometimes you can find original blades in 19th c rapier or sword guards it was cheaper to use old (damaged) parts if they had them. You can clearly see the difference on the surface on the inside of the helmet, the 19th c parts are not made in the 16th c manner, the tin repair is also something they did 100 years, in the 16th and 17th century they did not use tin repairs. Kind regards Ulfberth