Jambiya from?

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2021, 11:23 AM

Not really my thing at all. Found in a junk shop, as the blade is more substantial than most I have seen and not too pricey I bought it. The blade had a few quite hard spots of rust but gone now. The scabbard appears to tinned or very light silver plated copper. I have to say that the hammer work is nicely done. rubbed to create copper high lights and some kind of black paste has been applied to produce contrast against the copper and white plating. This black medium has been liberally applied to add an aged look. Buffalo horn handle. To me it looks mid to late 20th century

Gonzoadler · 14th June 2021, 11:40 AM

Hello,

it is an Omani Khanjar and not a Jambiya. Of course that is only a name game because Jambiyas and Omani Khanjars are very similar.
Purists would saying , that your piece is not made in one of the traditional styles and normally silver tin was used for the mountings. So I would say it is late 20th century.
A buffalo horn handle is good, many modern pieces have plastic handles, also if they are made in traditional style and with silver mountings.
I would say nice modern Omani craftmanship.

Regards
Robin

mariusgmioc · 14th June 2021, 02:47 PM

20th century Omani khanjar, yes, but I do not think it is made in Oman.

My guess would be Indian workmanship.

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2021, 03:57 PM

I have just noticed this dot mark 65. year of manufacture? or the other way up something else?

Kubur · 14th June 2021, 04:11 PM

Yes, Indian touristy version of the Omani khanjar (nice work through)
For the 65, maybe a limited edition?

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2021, 04:45 PM

This pdf has lots of information. In particular how Morden young smiths no longer follow tradition in manufacture but mix styles to suit themselves.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/195632974.pdf

Peter Hudson · 10th September 2021, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Not really my thing at all. Found in a junk shop, as the blade is more substantial than most I have seen and not too pricey I bought it. The blade had a few quite hard spots of rust but gone now. The scabbard appears to tinned or very light silver plated copper. I have to say that the hammer work is nicely done. rubbed to create copper high lights and some kind of black paste has been applied to produce contrast against the copper and white plating. This black medium has been liberally applied to add an aged look. Buffalo horn handle. To me it looks mid to late 20th century

Sorry to have missed this ...You also place this reference later on the page https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/195632974.pdf which is one of the best references around to do with Omani Khanjars by the author of the pdf ..part of his thesis into Omani Khanjars which set a benchmark for excellence on the subject ...

Omani Khanjars were copied by Indian and Pakistani makers inside and outside of Oman and finally the ministry in Oman stepped in and simply banned copies like this one which can be seen to be a clear copy...

1. A cheap shiny looking plated material possibly silver dipped over copper.
2. No chape.
3. A blade without a ridge on both faces...
4. A flat looking hilt.

This could be a toursit style and maybe from an Indian souk location in India.
The author of the PDF goes to great lengths to describe fakes thus I simply refer to that fine detail to finish on the subject... and request to use the reference on Omani Khanjars ...on Forum; to place the details at https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/195632974.pdf

Regards, Peter Hudson.

stephen wood · 21st September 2021, 10:56 AM

While we're on the subject, is mine, very old and worn, from Yemen or elsewhere?

stephen wood · 21st September 2021, 11:02 AM

Photo

Saracen · 21st September 2021, 01:10 PM

There is a strong Saudi accent here.
I will assume that jambiya is from the northwestern region of modern Yemen or the adjacent regions of Saudi Arabia.

stephen wood · 21st September 2021, 01:50 PM

Thank you 👍

14th June 2021, 11:23 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Jambiya from? Not really my thing at all. Found in a junk shop, as the blade is more substantial than most I have seen and not too pricey I bought it. The blade had a few quite hard spots of rust but gone now. The scabbard appears to tinned or very light silver plated copper. I have to say that the hammer work is nicely done. rubbed to create copper high lights and some kind of black paste has been applied to produce contrast against the copper and white plating. This black medium has been liberally applied to add an aged look. Buffalo horn handle. To me it looks mid to late 20th century Attached Images

14th June 2021, 03:57 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I have just noticed this dot mark 65. year of manufacture? or the other way up something else? Attached Images

21st September 2021, 11:02 AM	#9
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	Photo Attached Images

21st September 2021, 01:50 PM	#11
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	Thank you 👍 Attached Images

14th June 2021, 11:40 AM	#2
Gonzoadler Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 244	Hello, it is an Omani Khanjar and not a Jambiya. Of course that is only a name game because Jambiyas and Omani Khanjars are very similar. Purists would saying , that your piece is not made in one of the traditional styles and normally silver tin was used for the mountings. So I would say it is late 20th century. A buffalo horn handle is good, many modern pieces have plastic handles, also if they are made in traditional style and with silver mountings. I would say nice modern Omani craftmanship. Regards Robin

14th June 2021, 02:47 PM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	20th century Omani khanjar, yes, but I do not think it is made in Oman. My guess would be Indian workmanship.

14th June 2021, 04:11 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Yes, Indian touristy version of the Omani khanjar (nice work through) For the 65, maybe a limited edition?

14th June 2021, 04:45 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	This pdf has lots of information. In particular how Morden young smiths no longer follow tradition in manufacture but mix styles to suit themselves. https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/195632974.pdf

21st September 2021, 10:56 AM	#8
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	While we're on the subject, is mine, very old and worn, from Yemen or elsewhere?

21st September 2021, 01:10 PM	#10
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	There is a strong Saudi accent here. I will assume that jambiya is from the northwestern region of modern Yemen or the adjacent regions of Saudi Arabia.