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Flavio · 18th March 2007, 02:01 PM

Hi all, I'm back with three "new" pieces that I never show before on the forum: a mandau, a pedang 1 and a straight guradè (or saif as you preferr). Any commet, as usual, is very appreciated. Thank you

P.S. any idea on the mandau hilt? why it's so different from the hilts that usual we can see on this weapons?

Flavio · 18th March 2007, 02:04 PM

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Flavio · 18th March 2007, 02:10 PM

The pedang. The lamination on the blade is very beautiful! Who knows the meaning of the big H on the guard?

Flavio · 18th March 2007, 02:14 PM

... and the guradè. The decoration is the same on both sides of the blade. Unfortunatly no rhino for the hilt

Spunjer · 18th March 2007, 03:13 PM

the bottom one has the lion of judah. ethiopia, perhaps?

Flavio · 18th March 2007, 03:49 PM

Hello Ron, yes the guradè has the lion of judah on one side and it's a tipical ethiopan sword. Regards

Flavio

RhysMichael · 19th March 2007, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

The pedang. The lamination on the blade is very beautiful! Who knows the meaning of the big H on the guard?

A very nice peudeueng peusangan with a hulu meu apet ( pedang type 1). I believe the pattern you talk about is just a vegetative motif. If is seen on many hulu meu apet, I will try to post some more pictures soon of some. The floral motifs seen in Aceh are very common on weapons. Geometric and vegetative motifs are often symetrical. And very often enclosed in lines or borders. While it would be an H in the latin alphabet I am pretty sure they mostly use the arabic alphabet there. I hope someone here can add more on this

Maybe Utami will see this soon he is our man on the ground so to speak on these swords. Or Albert he certainly will have some good input on it.

RhysMichael · 19th March 2007, 02:11 AM

Some images

Some on Artzi's site

http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02262/ph-4.jpg

http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02168/ph-4.jpg

http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...01161/ph-5.jpg

http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02189/ph-4.jpg

katana · 19th March 2007, 02:37 AM

Hi Flavio,
Congrats... I really like the Pedang..

..the influence of Hindu weapons seems unmistakable with the example you've posted. The hilt is great (very Khanda-ish) and the blade looks fantastic.

The blade on the Gurade is also very nice.....is it European ?

My knowledge of SEA weapons could be written on a postage stamp.....but the blade on the Mandau seems quite modern, the hilt has very little wear or patina. (yesterday I posted a recent Mandau.....functional, well balanced and basic with a good forged blade...but 40+ years old)

Regards David

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Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	I'm Back Hi all, I'm back with three "new" pieces that I never show before on the forum: a mandau, a pedang 1 and a straight guradè (or saif as you preferr). Any commet, as usual, is very appreciated. Thank you P.S. any idea on the mandau hilt? why it's so different from the hilts that usual we can see on this weapons? Attached Images Last edited by Flavio; 18th March 2007 at 02:15 PM.

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Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	. Attached Images

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Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	The pedang. The lamination on the blade is very beautiful! Who knows the meaning of the big H on the guard? Attached Images

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Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	... and the guradè. The decoration is the same on both sides of the blade. Unfortunatly no rhino for the hilt Attached Images

19th March 2007, 02:11 AM	#8
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Some images Some on Artzi's site http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02262/ph-4.jpg http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02168/ph-4.jpg http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...01161/ph-5.jpg http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...02189/ph-4.jpg Last edited by RhysMichael; 19th March 2007 at 02:33 AM.

18th March 2007, 03:13 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	the bottom one has the lion of judah. ethiopia, perhaps?

18th March 2007, 03:49 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Ron, yes the guradè has the lion of judah on one side and it's a tipical ethiopan sword. Regards Flavio

19th March 2007, 02:37 AM	#9
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Flavio, Congrats... I really like the Pedang.. ..the influence of Hindu weapons seems unmistakable with the example you've posted. The hilt is great (very Khanda-ish) and the blade looks fantastic. The blade on the Gurade is also very nice.....is it European ? My knowledge of SEA weapons could be written on a postage stamp.....but the blade on the Mandau seems quite modern, the hilt has very little wear or patina. (yesterday I posted a recent Mandau.....functional, well balanced and basic with a good forged blade...but 40+ years old) Regards David