Unknown wilah, need help

Sajen · 5th December 2009, 05:19 PM

I have this keris blade with balinese (?) inscription and putut. Is it a dukun keris?
Every comment is welcome,

sajen

Rick · 5th December 2009, 05:49 PM

Sajen,
I'm sorry to say that this blade *in my opinion* looks altered and a bit artificially aged from the pitting present .

I could be absolutely wrong though; if I am forgive me please .

David · 5th December 2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Sajen,
I'm sorry to say that this blade *in my opinion* looks altered and a bit artificially aged from the pitting present .

I could be absolutely wrong though; if I am forgive me please .

It looks more likely to be a keris made for "dukuns that travel".

Sajen · 5th December 2009, 06:41 PM

Hello Rick and David,

my first thought also, so absolute no problem! What let me be in doubt about this have been the very cheap price and the very crudely worked sarung with strong patination. This sheat have been so simple that I cast off it. But like I write before it have had a strong patina. And by the price I paid for nobody have had a business by this. It have been an additional purchase by some other keris.

sajen

A. G. Maisey · 5th December 2009, 08:18 PM

Rick and David are correct in that this is a very recent keris of very much less than good quality. It is not an alteration.

The writing is produced by writing on the blade with a canthing using hot wax, and then soaking the blade in a corrosive medium. When the writing has been left in relief the wax is washed off with boiling water and the blade is stained.

Some of us call this type of a blade a "batik blade".

Sajen · 5th December 2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Rick and David are correct in that this is a very recent keris of very much less than good quality. It is not an alteration.

The writing is produced by writing on the blade with a canthing using hot wax, and then soaking the blade in a corrosive medium. When the writing has been left in relief the wax is washed off with boiling water and the blade is stained.

Some of us call this type of a blade a "batik blade".

Thank you Alan, then the sarung have been correct for the wilah! No problem at all, a hot dog would have been more expensive!

Regards,

Detlef

Alam Shah · 9th December 2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Rick and David are correct in that this is a very recent keris of very much less than good quality. It is not an alteration.

The writing is produced by writing on the blade with a canthing using hot wax, and then soaking the blade in a corrosive medium. When the writing has been left in relief the wax is washed off with boiling water and the blade is stained.

Some of us call this type of a blade a "batik blade".

Yes, I agree with Alan.. the process of making this blade is shown in the DVD video, "Keris in the Malay World".

http://www.jmm.gov.my/en/content/keris-malay-world

5th December 2009, 05:19 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Unknown wilah, need help I have this keris blade with balinese (?) inscription and putut. Is it a dukun keris? Every comment is welcome, sajen Attached Images

5th December 2009, 05:49 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Sajen, I'm sorry to say that this blade in my opinion looks altered and a bit artificially aged from the pitting present . I could be absolutely wrong though; if I am forgive me please .

5th December 2009, 06:41 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Hello Rick and David, my first thought also, so absolute no problem! What let me be in doubt about this have been the very cheap price and the very crudely worked sarung with strong patination. This sheat have been so simple that I cast off it. But like I write before it have had a strong patina. And by the price I paid for nobody have had a business by this. It have been an additional purchase by some other keris. sajen

5th December 2009, 08:18 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Rick and David are correct in that this is a very recent keris of very much less than good quality. It is not an alteration. The writing is produced by writing on the blade with a canthing using hot wax, and then soaking the blade in a corrosive medium. When the writing has been left in relief the wax is washed off with boiling water and the blade is stained. Some of us call this type of a blade a "batik blade".