Sarajevo knife and fork.

Tim Simmons · 5th June 2017, 04:15 PM

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 5th June 2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

Apparently about 1886 vintage... Jolly nice! See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/180988478752536828/

gp · 8th May 2020, 08:09 PM

another set :

- knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo)
- fork made from mountain goat / chamois

remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife.

As for diminsions ( all in cm )

total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3
total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2

gp · 23rd May 2020, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gp

another set :

- knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo)
- fork made from mountain goat / chamois

remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife.

As for diminsions ( all in cm )

total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3
total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2

some additional pics on the square handle knife

gp · 8th May 2020, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

similer set although with a slightly smaller spoon:

total length 11,5 cm
spoon handle; 7,5 cm
spoon part: 4 cm

width :
handle : 0,9 cm
connection handle2spoon: 0,4 cm
spoon widest: 2 cm

gp · 9th May 2020, 07:39 PM

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

gp · 23rd May 2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gp

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

also here some more detailed pics, unfortunately the year on the knife could not be better shown

gp · 29th May 2020, 06:46 PM

request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do?
Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied:

1. leave as is
2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition.

This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry.

Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot

Tim Simmons · 31st May 2020, 08:06 PM

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

gp · 1st June 2020, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

Thnx a lot for the advice !

gp · 13th August 2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gp

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

never thought they would come bigger, but just stumbled on this set
knife 39 cm
Fork 35 cm

with 2 sets, at least I can invite Detlef for a BABI PANGANG now :-)))

gp · 26th March 2023, 11:15 AM

latest set I was happy to find :

knife & fork with a grip / handle I never have seen before
neither bichaqs or other knife / dagger types from Bosnia
yet it has all the characteristic ornaments:the combination of the below 3

- circular / rings with three copper wheel-like pieces in them
- metal, iron rivets on top
- bone grip

need to clean them ( green copper oxidation on the bone) when they arrive.

Any of you seen these grips before ?

BR

Gunar

Battara · 29th March 2023, 06:55 PM

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

Dmitry · 30th March 2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

Just something different, possibly made to imitate the color of a mineral, like malachite.

gp · 30th March 2023, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

my guess is contamination by the copper rings due to bad storagein a humid place, but I can give a better reply once I have received them and cleaned / restored them.
I have seen it with some bichaqs of my collections before.
The green ones are complete green and do not show this kind of deterioration; they look like the above ones or the attached one
Folks handle swords with care, daggers also but the smaller items get often less care, specially these kind of cutlery.

Please bear with me....and I answer when I'll get them

Sajen · 11th April 2023, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gp

with 2 sets, at least I can invite Detlef for a BABI PANGANG now :-)))

Ini enak sekali!

gp · 19th April 2023, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Ini enak sekali!

Selamat makan / enjoy the food mein Freund ! ☼

gp · 19th April 2023, 05:14 PM

my latest purchase, just received , is this set and is most beautiful and best intact of my collection with regards to the golden decoration and writting being almost untouched.

One question remains: what is written in Arabic writting?

As certainly "Sarajevo" it is not:

- the S is missing
- also the combination of other letters in caligraphic do not make sense
- no similarities with previous or other knives and bichaqs from my collection

or I might be missing something...any advise is more than welcome!

5th June 2017, 04:15 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Sarajevo knife and fork. Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old. Attached Images

8th May 2020, 08:09 PM	#3
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	another set : - knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo) - fork made from mountain goat / chamois remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife. As for diminsions ( all in cm ) total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3 total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2 Attached Images Last edited by gp; 9th May 2020 at 06:45 PM.

9th May 2020, 07:39 PM	#6
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia Knife 32 cm Fork 33 cm Attached Images

29th May 2020, 06:46 PM	#8
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do? Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied: 1. leave as is 2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition. This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry. Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot Attached Images

26th March 2023, 11:15 AM	#12
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	latest set I was happy to find : knife & fork with a grip / handle I never have seen before neither bichaqs or other knife / dagger types from Bosnia yet it has all the characteristic ornaments:the combination of the below 3 - circular / rings with three copper wheel-like pieces in them - metal, iron rivets on top - bone grip need to clean them ( green copper oxidation on the bone) when they arrive. Any of you seen these grips before ? BR Gunar Attached Images

31st May 2020, 08:06 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

29th March 2023, 06:55 PM	#13
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,217	What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

19th April 2023, 05:14 PM	#18
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	my latest purchase, just received , is this set and is most beautiful and best intact of my collection with regards to the golden decoration and writting being almost untouched. One question remains: what is written in Arabic writting? As certainly "Sarajevo" it is not: - the S is missing - also the combination of other letters in caligraphic do not make sense - no similarities with previous or other knives and bichaqs from my collection or I might be missing something...any advise is more than welcome! Attached Images Last edited by gp; 19th April 2023 at 08:26 PM.