Ottoman Hancer for translation

mariusgmioc · 14th March 2020, 01:02 PM

I have this large (52 cm; 20.1") Ottoman hancer. The blade is wootz and the hilt is walrus ivory.

I believe it to be Turkish but I would like to hear other oppinions.

I would also appreciate if somebody can help me with the translation. (do I see the year '295 - 1878?!

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Drabant1701 · 14th March 2020, 04:27 PM

Very nice! It looks older then 1878 to me, I dont really see 295, more like 695 or 195

mariusgmioc · 14th March 2020, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Drabant1701

Very nice! It looks older then 1878 to me, I dont really see 295, more like 695 or 195

You're right! More like 695...

Thanks!

Kubur · 14th March 2020, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

You're right! More like 695...

Thanks!

No I think you are right Marius 1295

For sure it's not 1195; plus the other number 1695 doesnt make any sense.

mariusgmioc · 14th March 2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

No I think you are right Marius 1295

For sure it's not 1195; plus the other number 1695 doesnt make any sense.

Yep, '295 makes sense, but the 2 is written wrongly. Here below are the Arabic numerals from 1 to 9 and 0.

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ariel · 15th March 2020, 12:03 AM

This configuration of a handle is often attributed to Albania.
Any evidence pro or con?

kwiatek · 15th March 2020, 12:03 AM

I think it can only be [1]295 even if it doesn’t look like a 2

The upper cartouche reads

عمل دمشق الشام صاحبه عثمان بيك

"Work of Damascus, Syria. It’s owner is Osman Bey.”

The lower one with the year is an Arabic saying, I’ll see if I can work it out

14th March 2020, 01:02 PM	#1
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Ottoman Hancer for translation I have this large (52 cm; 20.1") Ottoman hancer. The blade is wootz and the hilt is walrus ivory. I believe it to be Turkish but I would like to hear other oppinions. I would also appreciate if somebody can help me with the translation. (do I see the year '295 - 1878?! ) Attached Images

14th March 2020, 04:27 PM	#2
Drabant1701 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 181	Very nice! It looks older then 1878 to me, I dont really see 295, more like 695 or 195

15th March 2020, 12:03 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	This configuration of a handle is often attributed to Albania. Any evidence pro or con?

15th March 2020, 12:03 AM	#7
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	I think it can only be [1]295 even if it doesn’t look like a 2 The upper cartouche reads عمل دمشق الشام صاحبه عثمان بيك "Work of Damascus, Syria. It’s owner is Osman Bey.” The lower one with the year is an Arabic saying, I’ll see if I can work it out