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Just ended...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150105564166 Seller's location, method of payment and the anonymity of bidding make me believe that whoever transfers money to the owner's bank account is for a big and unpleasant surprise..... |
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Guess you could risk credit card payment via paypal, if you have good relationship with your credit cards legal department.
Probably safer than going there to collect it, or bank transfer! ![]() Spiral |
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Again, nice sword indeed. |
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If you actualy scrolled to bottom of page it is all set up for paypal payment. ![]() It always helps to read the whole advert. He probably assumed anyone who couldnt do that, wasnt serious.... Spiral |
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best Husar |
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One funny thing in the second kilij: The most positive feedbacks of the seller come from people who are "no longer register user" in Ebay. I wonder why all these good people left
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Another marvel from Ukraine:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Shamshir-in-a-co...QQcmdZViewItem If you look closely - the rants of Kirk-Narduban look almost like they've been painted on the blade, too perfect. If the buyer gets it - what a deal!!! |
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[QUOTE=arielSeller's location, method of payment and the anonymity of bidding make me believe that whoever transfers money to the owner's bank account is for a big and unpleasant surprise.....[/QUOTE]
I am afraid anonimity of the bidders is becoming the norm on eBay. It seems it is endorsed by eBay itself. The only thing i find obviously suspect on this auction is that the seller has absolutely no feedback. That in itself is enough to stop me from bidding on an item. ![]() |
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Something in ths auction does not pass the "Nose Test."
![]() ![]() But Spiral is right. Always read the entire ad. I guess you could fund the PayPal with a credit card, but still, I would be nervous. However I was just given some incredibly bad advice from a Curator of Arfican Arts on the purchase of a few African items, so I am not in a trustng mood. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I agree its probably dodgy, my credit card covers me well though, I guess cards smallprint & banking laws can very depending on which country ones based in. If I realy wanted it, I would have rung the CC legal department & asked if I was covered for buying antique swords from Ukraine via ebay. They give a straight yes or no & in past have always served me very well, with major purchases including secondhand cars & dodgy international sword dealers.
But like ebay & paypal expieriences your milage may vary! Spiral |
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While I wouldn't want to make a blanket statement that all sellers from the Ukraine are scam artists it is a fact that several people have been "taken" by sellers from the Ukraine. There was an Ebay seller that posted several rather nice Chinese swords. The only payment policy was Western Union. I have heard of two people that made the purchase, sent the money, only to never have the sword show up. The pictures were rather similar to this sword.(Seems all swords are pictured on a sword stand.) I think it is important to spread the news about these type of things so other folks are not "taken" by such scams.
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Another one, even more spectacular, with a wootz blade!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9262&rd=1&rd=1 No bids. This is the second time this Kilij is listed on e-bay; it was already "sold" once. |
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Sorry about your African items. This is why I like wootz so much, no surprises here. |
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1 , it is illegal to send them in the post anyway, as in these areas there is a law against sending edged items in the post, so if found it can be taken by the state, 2, these items sell for as much as 2 x the price in russia than for wha they do in the rest of the world, . so it makes no sence that a owner would list it on ebay, he coulld sell it to a collector for a good price in the country, and wouldnt have to worry about having the money taxed when he receved it (incoming money is harsly taxed, dosnt matter how you get it.. , if you arnt a businness and are getting money from anohter country the government wants some) even in islolated places , like dagestan , ther eis in the large cities many big well stocked antique shops selling all manner of bulat bladed anrique arms, old flintlock postolr sheilds , ect ect, and mostly for rather high prioces, as ther eis a good market of collectors even in out of the way places, dont buy these thigns, yes maybe if you come to russia it is good, see the thing and buy it, but no over the internet, there is a 100% chance that is a scam |
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Ausjulius,
Thank you for sharing the information with us. It confirms what I heard from several other Russian and Dagestani dealers and collectors. Particularly, taking an antique Russian sword into Russia is no problem, and even encouraged, BUT taking it out by any means is very difficult.. and expensive on and under the table:-) |
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