Pamorless

JustYS · 15th April 2020, 11:37 AM

Usually I’ve acquired a keris due to its pamor but this time I prefer pamor-less (keleng).

Here is the pamor-less keris with dhapur Mangkurat Mangkunegara.

Thank you in advance for your comments

Cheers,

JBG163 · 15th April 2020, 11:48 AM

Hey ! Got a simple question here. Do we assume it's a newly made keris ?

Jean · 15th April 2020, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JBG163

Hey ! Got a simple question here. Do we assume it's a newly made keris ?

I believe so. The blade has pudak sategal (hooks) on the sides and a very odd ganja tail. The dhapur name is correct. Modern piece...

JustYS · 15th April 2020, 01:32 PM

Yes, I also believe it is a modern Keris.

If I remember correctly (correct me if I’m wrong), Alan once said that pudhak sategal is not a feature found in old Keris.

Cheers,

Battara · 15th April 2020, 07:57 PM

I agree. Modern take.

GIO · 16th April 2020, 10:26 AM

What about mendak ?

Anthony G. · 17th April 2020, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustYS

Usually I’ve acquired a keris due to its pamor but this time I prefer pamor-less (keleng).

Here is the pamor-less keris with dhapur Mangkurat Mangkunegara.

Thank you in advance for your comments

Cheers,

Nice and beautiful made.

A. G. Maisey · 17th April 2020, 04:26 AM

Yes, if these are gemstones they possibly are moonstones, but this style of mendak often has an ivory or bone insert rather than gemstones, usually where gemstones are used they are put into a setting. Where ivory or bone is used it is an insert in the shape of a ring.

15th April 2020, 11:37 AM	#1
JustYS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 138	Pamorless Usually I’ve acquired a keris due to its pamor but this time I prefer pamor-less (keleng). Here is the pamor-less keris with dhapur Mangkurat Mangkunegara. Thank you in advance for your comments Cheers, Attached Images

15th April 2020, 11:48 AM	#2
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 207	Hey ! Got a simple question here. Do we assume it's a newly made keris ?

15th April 2020, 01:32 PM	#4
JustYS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 138	Yes, I also believe it is a modern Keris. If I remember correctly (correct me if I’m wrong), Alan once said that pudhak sategal is not a feature found in old Keris. Cheers,

15th April 2020, 07:57 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	I agree. Modern take.

16th April 2020, 10:26 AM	#6
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 313	What about mendak ?

17th April 2020, 04:26 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,898	Yes, if these are gemstones they possibly are moonstones, but this style of mendak often has an ivory or bone insert rather than gemstones, usually where gemstones are used they are put into a setting. Where ivory or bone is used it is an insert in the shape of a ring.