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Old 17th June 2011, 05:49 AM   #1
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Default Dagger on E-bay: what did I miss?

It ended at $3,250.
I am not saying it is not nice, but...
Sold as Quing Mughal dagger.
I am not trying to be sarcastic, I am just wondering where is the giant lacuna in my knowledge?
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Old 17th June 2011, 07:38 AM   #2
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It ended at $3,250.
I am not saying it is not nice, but...
Sold as Quing Mughal dagger.
I am not trying to be sarcastic, I am just wondering where is the giant lacuna in my knowledge?


Well, it's definitely not where my lacuna lies, as I had to look up the word "lacuna" just to reply to the thread. I guess that's what I get for buying my word-a-day calendar at the $.99 store.

I have a few antique metalware items from NW Pakistan with somewhat similar metalwork and enameling. Interesting piece. Having a hard time myself seeing $3,200, but obviously someone saw the value in it...
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Old 17th June 2011, 08:03 AM   #3
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Is the scabbard pure gold ?
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Old 17th June 2011, 08:46 AM   #4
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I feel that at least two or more people saw the value.

A single bidder cannot drive up an auction price by himself --- he needs help from somebody bidding against him.
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Old 17th June 2011, 08:59 AM   #5
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intresting though that the other biddr had zero feedback....
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Old 17th June 2011, 09:31 AM   #6
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Ariel, you’re safe:-) But it’s incredible how many others are struggling with this. This is new China-made souvenir, bought for around $100 and listed under mystical-sounding title. There were several very similar sold on eBay recently, and several are currently listed. This “jade” handle can be picked up in China for under $5, and also on e-Bay for even less as part of magnifying glass or mirror. The stones are “cooked” glass, Russian-style enamel and filigree wire work is typical ordinary new production. Not to mention a crude bolster/blade joint, there is no tang. What’s nice about it? This type of “souvenir” can be in a dollar store as a letter opener, or sold by dozens in a flea market - but once on e-Bay packaged in a convincing description, a few stones, enamel and other glitter, people get blindsided … just like with “Antique Mughal” daggers coming out of India all of the sudden. With this trend gaining momentum, soon we’ll be refusing ethnographic originals and jumping on “rare and magnificent” fakes – a disturbing drift IMHO.
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Old 17th June 2011, 11:28 AM   #7
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very good information and insights, Alex!
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Old 17th June 2011, 12:17 PM   #8
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already, there is an other one, under the same label
I didn't read enough carefully Alex's post who mentioned it
sorry for the double ...

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Old 17th June 2011, 02:18 PM   #9
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Seems to me that somebody must have stumbled upon a long lost trove, with all these rare and valuable items coming onto the market.

I wonder if that under bidder who missed out last time will try for the other one that has come up.
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Old 17th June 2011, 03:24 PM   #10
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I wondered if this was a newly made product. China - hmmm. Bolster also bothered me.
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Old 18th June 2011, 03:16 AM   #11
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Ariel, you’re safe:-) But it’s incredible how many others are struggling with this. This is new China-made souvenir, bought for around $100 and listed under mystical-sounding title. ....
Could be money laundering or some other kind of scam in process. Seems like overpaying (yourself) on eBay for an item would be an easy way to do it.
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Old 18th June 2011, 04:28 AM   #12
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Now that is slick. Never thought about that possibility...
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