I.D. for a Kurdish Jambiya

Dom · 3rd August 2012, 03:55 PM

Hi everybody
presented as a nice 19th C. kandjar jambiya dagger
with a fine wootz blade that was patterned as a flaming blade
eBay n° : 290750065409 (auction ended)

I didn't pushed my bids, the flaming blade created me, a disturbance
the wootz seems old, Indo-Persan,
I have a difficulty to imagine Kurdish men with a Jambiya equipped with a blade from India,
it was that my feeling

... and ...

what's your expertise ? I was wrong ? this type of dagger is common ?
just to know, for an other time ...

thanks per anticipation for your comments

best regards

à +

Dom

Gavin Nugent · 3rd August 2012, 04:55 PM

Dom,

The watered steel surfaces is ok for the type.

The terrible edges though...they look very out of balance....only the spirits know how or why this has the unbalanced look it does....
or maybe someone here

Gav

Battara · 3rd August 2012, 05:10 PM

I agree with Gav, the waves on the blade are unfortunate. Maybe there was deep rust on the blade and it had to be removed.

Just a thought.

Dom · 3rd August 2012, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I agree with Gav, the waves on the blade are unfortunate. Maybe there was deep rust on the blade and it had to be removed

very good point Battara, your point of view associated with, the one, from Gav
seems to me, absolutely a pertinent suggestion - Thanks
also no regret, to don't have pushed more far, my bids, for something to tamper with

Royston, your collection is just a amazing, you are a lucky guy
for time being, I have only one Kurdish's Jambiya, it has a "Johar" blade

I appreciated all your comments, thank you

à +

Dom

A.alnakkas · 3rd August 2012, 07:51 PM

Hey Dom,

Its a decent piece, but like you I didnt bid on it because it seems that the blade was modified at some point in its life. I think as Gav and Jose have said, the blade may have been damaged and the waves was the last resort for the restorer.

Non the less, congrats to whoever won it as its an interesting piece :-)

Royston · 3rd August 2012, 05:24 PM

I agree, it just does not look right. I have never seen one with a wavy blade and as Gav says, it appears "out of balance"
It must have been good in it's younger days.
Here are mine for comparison.

Roy

3rd August 2012, 03:55 PM	#1
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	I.D. for a Kurdish Jambiya Hi everybody presented as a nice 19th C. kandjar jambiya dagger with a fine wootz blade that was patterned as a flaming blade eBay n° : 290750065409 (auction ended) I didn't pushed my bids, the flaming blade created me, a disturbance the wootz seems old, Indo-Persan, I have a difficulty to imagine Kurdish men with a Jambiya equipped with a blade from India, it was that my feeling ... and ... what's your expertise ? I was wrong ? this type of dagger is common ? just to know, for an other time ... thanks per anticipation for your comments best regards à + Dom Attached Images

3rd August 2012, 05:24 PM	#6
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	I agree, it just does not look right. I have never seen one with a wavy blade and as Gav says, it appears "out of balance" It must have been good in it's younger days. Here are mine for comparison. Roy Attached Images

3rd August 2012, 04:55 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Dom, The watered steel surfaces is ok for the type. The terrible edges though...they look very out of balance....only the spirits know how or why this has the unbalanced look it does.... or maybe someone here Gav

3rd August 2012, 05:10 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	I agree with Gav, the waves on the blade are unfortunate. Maybe there was deep rust on the blade and it had to be removed. Just a thought.

3rd August 2012, 07:51 PM	#5
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hey Dom, Its a decent piece, but like you I didnt bid on it because it seems that the blade was modified at some point in its life. I think as Gav and Jose have said, the blade may have been damaged and the waves was the last resort for the restorer. Non the less, congrats to whoever won it as its an interesting piece :-)