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19th January 2008, 04:26 PM | #1 |
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Archaic proto-, boy's- or miniature souvenir-kris?
I have just finished etching this strange kris.
It looks very old and a nice twist core showed up along the blade. But there is not a separate ganja and its size is inbetween a Javanese and a Balinese keris. This is the smallest Moro kris I have seen (so far). It's 52 cm (20 1/2") in scabbard and the blade is 39,5 cm (15 1/2"). What do you think it is? Michael |
19th January 2008, 09:59 PM | #2 |
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Actually, VVV, this is about right for an old pre-1800s Moro kris like this. They were smaller then and got larger as time went on. Not unusual at all, and I knew that it would have a twistcore. It probably does have a separable ganga, but it will take magnification to see it, and it may be in a straight line, making it harder to see (or just hard to see).
I wanted this piece, but did not have the funds this time. IT is one of the best examples of this type and you are fortunate to have the scabbard with it. Congratulations! (grumble, grumble, envy, envy ..... ). |
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Hello Michael,
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19th January 2008, 10:12 PM | #4 | |
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How long is the gripping length - isn't that too long for a (Moro) boy's fist? Regards, Kai |
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20th January 2008, 12:22 AM | #6 |
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Thanks for your comments!
The gripping area is only 7,5 cm, slightly less than a ukiran keris (see comparison picture). On the ganja there is none (checked with a 8x). But I have recieved off-forum info that this, ganja iras, could be a sign of a really archaic keris/kris. Michael |
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23rd January 2008, 01:12 AM | #8 |
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Blade length 18".
Overall length 22.75" Length of grip section of hilt 3.25" Scabbard damaged but original. |
20th January 2008, 03:52 AM | #9 |
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Very nice. Congrats.
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20th January 2008, 04:35 AM | #10 |
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Michael, that is just plain sweet! A nice find.
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20th January 2008, 02:41 PM | #11 |
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Wonderful piece Michael, I'd like to have one of this
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21st January 2008, 10:52 AM | #12 |
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Thanks for all comments.
Any additional ideas on what it is? Jose, have you seen other kris of this, very small, size? Michael |
21st January 2008, 05:15 PM | #13 |
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Yes
An 18 1/4" blade, close .
If yours is a Ganga Iras it would be the first archaic example I have ever seen . |
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