"regular" VOC sword or ethnograpical object?

Mytribalworld · 12th October 2007, 04:02 PM

Was a little suprised when I got this sword this week.
According to the seller it came probably from Indonesia.
The blade seems to have old VOC marks.only the last numbers are a little visable and it seems like 77.
The top of the handle is decorated with a kind of beaver-marmoth or anything like that? looks also a little Tlingit....
The scabbard is from zinc.
Hope anyone can help me with this.....

Tim Simmons · 12th October 2007, 06:07 PM

To me it looks like a Leopard and a very Nice West African weapon with European blade. Leopards make me think of Benin in particular. I will try and show my thinking.

Tim Simmons · 12th October 2007, 06:21 PM

Leopard stool from Ivory Coast.

Dajak · 12th October 2007, 07:05 PM

Real VOC swords hard to get and very expensive today

Ben

asomotif · 16th October 2007, 12:24 PM

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Real VOC swords hard to get and very expensive today

Please read Ben

It is clear that it is a real VOC sword and nobody asked about the price.

The blade has VOC markings (in fact the Chambre of Amsterdam)
The VOC was divided in separate department (kamer) and well known ones are Amsterdam / Rotterdam and Hoorn.

The hilt seems european to me.
maybe it has been used as a hunting sword/side arm ?

Tim Simmons · 16th October 2007, 05:29 PM

The Dutch, Danes, British, French and others all supplied blades exstensively throughout the West African trade coast. To aid thier interests using African conflict and internal politics. I can post more Leopard pics if you need them.

Dajak · 16th October 2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Please read Ben

It is clear that it is a real VOC sword and nobody asked about the price.

The blade has VOC markings (in fact the Chambre of Amsterdam)
The VOC was divided in separate department (kamer) and well known ones are Amsterdam / Rotterdam and Hoorn.

The hilt seems european to me.
maybe it has been used as a hunting sword/side arm ?

No way this is an real voc sword .
It is an sword that has making VOC that s the difference
Willem I am telling buying an real old VOC sword is like a win in the lottery .
But I see you take it up for your friend you always bidding on his stuff but never get it .
I have no problem with that.

Ben

12th October 2007, 04:02 PM	#1
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	"regular" VOC sword or ethnograpical object? Was a little suprised when I got this sword this week. According to the seller it came probably from Indonesia. The blade seems to have old VOC marks.only the last numbers are a little visable and it seems like 77. The top of the handle is decorated with a kind of beaver-marmoth or anything like that? looks also a little Tlingit.... The scabbard is from zinc. Hope anyone can help me with this..... Attached Images

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12th October 2007, 06:07 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,797	To me it looks like a Leopard and a very Nice West African weapon with European blade. Leopards make me think of Benin in particular. I will try and show my thinking.

12th October 2007, 06:21 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,797	Leopard stool from Ivory Coast.

12th October 2007, 07:05 PM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Real VOC swords hard to get and very expensive today Ben

16th October 2007, 05:29 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,797	The Dutch, Danes, British, French and others all supplied blades exstensively throughout the West African trade coast. To aid thier interests using African conflict and internal politics. I can post more Leopard pics if you need them.