Bali? Lombok?

Bill M · 9th July 2007, 08:46 PM

Think that I'll need to break out some pineapple juice. Hope the scabbard is not missing too big a piece on the front.

First keris I have bought in a while.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270142667075

Comments?

David · 9th July 2007, 09:35 PM

Needs some restoration, but it looks like a nice, substantial blade. I like the deep carving of the ricikan. The missing piece seems to be part of the pelet "veneer", not the actual structure of the sheath. I would think it would be a difficult part to replace, but the sarung looks otherwise intact. I don't think there are any distinguishing features that will determine whether this one is Bali or Lombok.
Looks like you found a sleeper at a good price.

Lew · 9th July 2007, 11:05 PM

Nice keris and a good price. Seems Balinese to me. I have a keris with a similar hilt. They say the cord wrapping is human hair.

Lew

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2007, 12:58 AM

Not a bad keris, Bill. Typical Balinese style of blade of middle quality, are there a couple of gaps from the blade? You can probably rework the eges to remove the worst of this gapping. You could always ignore it, but I think one of these gaps is a bit too big to be acceptable.

The handle is a bit knocked around, but should be easy enough to tidy up.

Pity about the gandar veneer. Only way to fix this is with a pendok.

cahaya · 10th July 2007, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

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First keris I have bought in a while.

Comments?

Bravo Bill

please send the picture after (or if you) restoration

cahaya

ganjawulung · 10th July 2007, 04:46 AM

Hi Bill,
Your new keris and sheath, is either Bali or Lombok. But the handle or hilt (Danda or Danganan, according to Mr Lalu Djelenga's Lombok keris book) is from the type of "loncengan". That is the simplified of the "cenangan" type...

In Jakarta (Indonesia), you still possible to repair the missing veneer, by replacing the stripped layer of the "pelet" (of the timoho wood -- Kleinhovia hospita L) with a similar (not exactly the same, but old) layer. There are some good "mranggi" (keris sheath maker) in Jakarta and of course in Yogyakarta, Surakarta, who can repair such missing thing... But unfortunately, you are out there....

Ganjawulung

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2007, 06:16 AM

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9th July 2007, 08:46 PM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Bali? Lombok? Think that I'll need to break out some pineapple juice. Hope the scabbard is not missing too big a piece on the front. First keris I have bought in a while. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270142667075 Comments?

9th July 2007, 11:05 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Nice keris and a good price. Seems Balinese to me. I have a keris with a similar hilt. They say the cord wrapping is human hair. Lew Attached Images

10th July 2007, 04:46 AM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Loncengan Hi Bill, Your new keris and sheath, is either Bali or Lombok. But the handle or hilt (Danda or Danganan, according to Mr Lalu Djelenga's Lombok keris book) is from the type of "loncengan". That is the simplified of the "cenangan" type... In Jakarta (Indonesia), you still possible to repair the missing veneer, by replacing the stripped layer of the "pelet" (of the timoho wood -- Kleinhovia hospita L) with a similar (not exactly the same, but old) layer. There are some good "mranggi" (keris sheath maker) in Jakarta and of course in Yogyakarta, Surakarta, who can repair such missing thing... But unfortunately, you are out there.... Ganjawulung

10th July 2007, 06:16 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Deleted---irrelevant. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 10th July 2007 at 06:32 AM.

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9th July 2007, 09:35 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Needs some restoration, but it looks like a nice, substantial blade. I like the deep carving of the ricikan. The missing piece seems to be part of the pelet "veneer", not the actual structure of the sheath. I would think it would be a difficult part to replace, but the sarung looks otherwise intact. I don't think there are any distinguishing features that will determine whether this one is Bali or Lombok. Looks like you found a sleeper at a good price.

10th July 2007, 12:58 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Not a bad keris, Bill. Typical Balinese style of blade of middle quality, are there a couple of gaps from the blade? You can probably rework the eges to remove the worst of this gapping. You could always ignore it, but I think one of these gaps is a bit too big to be acceptable. The handle is a bit knocked around, but should be easy enough to tidy up. Pity about the gandar veneer. Only way to fix this is with a pendok.