A new generation of fakes

ariel · 30th December 2006, 06:25 PM

We all see these "Russian" swords coming from China on e-bay. The markings are ridiculous.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0772&rd=1&rd=1
This one ( just ended) is a somewhat different beast: the markings are still full of errors, strange symbols, misspellings etc. However, the Zlatoust stamp is much closer to the original. It is a fake, no doubt, but the level of sophistication is improving markedly.
Caveat emptor!!!

BBJW · 30th December 2006, 06:31 PM

I wish Ebay would stop accepting listings from China. It certainly would condense the listing pages.

William.m · 30th December 2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBJW

I wish Ebay would stop accepting listings from China. It certainly would condense the listing pages.

I would prefer it if you could filter out countries that you did not want included in the search.

Will

Battara · 30th December 2006, 08:23 PM

Interesting that it is coming from a vender in UK. Guess once these escape from China, they get around.

HUSAR · 30th December 2006, 08:31 PM

Probably we can soon expect some "nice" indo-persian fakes

while I have seen Chinese dealers buying books on indo persian arms and armor .... as well as some daggers and swords...

ariel · 31st December 2006, 12:33 AM

If you want to buy a Russian sword on e-bay and have doubts, please feel free to send me or Rivkin a PM: we will be glad to help.

TVV · 31st December 2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUSAR

Probably we can soon expect some "nice" indo-persian fakes

while I have seen Chinese dealers buying books on indo persian arms and armor .... as well as some daggers and swords...

I somehow do not see the Chinese massproducing wootz blades to sell them at $0.99 ($75 shipping).

RhysMichael · 30th December 2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

We all see these "Russian" swords coming from China on e-bay. The markings are ridiculous.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0772&rd=1&rd=1
This one ( just ended) is a somewhat different beast: the markings are still full of errors, strange symbols, misspellings etc. However, the Zlatoust stamp is much closer to the original. It is a fake, no doubt, but the level of sophistication is improving markedly.
Caveat emptor!!!

Thanks for the heads up. I would love to oneday own some russian swords. this is a shame as usual

Flavio · 30th December 2006, 06:35 PM

Ariel, i know nothing of these things, but i see it and first i think "seems good", but what make me think is that always they are too much complete (i mean also the bayonet). Anyway for those like me that are completly ignorant these things are very dangerous!! Thanks

30th December 2006, 06:25 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	A new generation of fakes We all see these "Russian" swords coming from China on e-bay. The markings are ridiculous. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0772&rd=1&rd=1 This one ( just ended) is a somewhat different beast: the markings are still full of errors, strange symbols, misspellings etc. However, the Zlatoust stamp is much closer to the original. It is a fake, no doubt, but the level of sophistication is improving markedly. Caveat emptor!!!

30th December 2006, 06:31 PM	#2
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 228	Chinese fakes I wish Ebay would stop accepting listings from China. It certainly would condense the listing pages.

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30th December 2006, 08:23 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,240	Interesting that it is coming from a vender in UK. Guess once these escape from China, they get around.

30th December 2006, 08:31 PM	#5
HUSAR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 80	Probably we can soon expect some "nice" indo-persian fakes while I have seen Chinese dealers buying books on indo persian arms and armor .... as well as some daggers and swords...

31st December 2006, 12:33 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	If you want to buy a Russian sword on e-bay and have doubts, please feel free to send me or Rivkin a PM: we will be glad to help.

30th December 2006, 06:35 PM	#9
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Ariel, i know nothing of these things, but i see it and first i think "seems good", but what make me think is that always they are too much complete (i mean also the bayonet). Anyway for those like me that are completly ignorant these things are very dangerous!! Thanks