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31st July 2022, 12:46 PM | #1 |
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Folding knife, origin opinions please
Hi All,
I just purchased what I thought was a Spanish Navaja folding knife, but now I am unsure? I just bought cos I like it so no worries if origin is somewhere else. Lots of nice features, horn handle, brass inlay on the black of the handle, silver design in steel/silver pins in the handle, brass inlay in the blade, Marking on the blade (which looks like a fish to me) and a reinforced tip. overall V light in construction so I do not think it is a working knife but blade is still sharp enough So any idea as to what it might be and approx age would be great. Overall length 21 cm with a blade of 9.5 cm regards to all Ken PS purchased in Ireland and no back story |
2nd August 2022, 11:23 AM | #2 |
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Hi All
I was holding the knife last night and it occurred to me that when holding the knife open (there is no lock) my thumb naturally rests on the "fish like area" and this would be a convenient way to hold the blade open. Thanks all REgards Ken |
2nd August 2022, 11:36 AM | #3 |
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Come on Gentlemen, not a single opinion about this beautiful piece ?
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2nd August 2022, 02:05 PM | #4 |
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Personally, I think something a bit 'glitzier' is needed to match those fingernails.
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I took a cursory glance of Medrano's Reflexiones sobre la navaja antigigua and came up empty handed. The only fish I found was the "Pez Judio" which wasn't close. I attached a list of German makers numbers 52 & 48 being the closest I found to yours, but not it exactly. Yours is definitely a stamp not a carving. There are some manuscript facsimiles which I didn't get through. The problem I saw while reading descriptions of marks is does this mark represent a fish? It also is close to the "vessel" of the Islamic world. I know, it most likely isn't, but it is a good example to illustrate my point. It is a pretty piece. It is interesting that with all the decoration it is a penny knife (springless). This makes me wonder if it was made by a village smith who didn't want to bother with the troubles of making a spring and/or a lock, and therefore whose mark was less likely to be recorded? To me being a penny knife means that it was made as a pure tool or a decoration, not a weapon. |
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2nd August 2022, 04:07 PM | #8 |
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Hi Ken,
I looked through all my books, including Forton's, trying to identify the ccutler's mark, all to no avail. Also, I couldn't find one quite like it. My gut feeling is that it is not Spanish. We have to remember that "navajas" and variations thereof were made widely not only in Europe but also as afar as India. Cheers Chris |
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I am with you Chris; too many details to exclude such probability. That blade tip is perfectly blunt. Meaning that this knife is exclusively made to only cut with its edge, no chance for it to pierce; there ought to be a purpose to be so. As for the precious decoration, well ... no comments .
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The images I posted were from the Science Museum Study group . Described as circumcision knives or for general surgery.Early nineteenth century. Made sense to me if not to anyone else .
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