long persian dagger / wootz blade ?

chiefheadknocker · 7th October 2018, 11:59 AM

Hi all ,this is another find which I have recently picked up , Im very much a novice but thought this dagger was of good quality , I believe its of Persian origin with ivory handle and is quite long measuring in total 40 cm and blade 29 cm , im stuck on whether this is a wootz blade ive tried to take a picture the best I can, is it advisable to etch the blade ?

AJ1356 · 7th October 2018, 02:59 PM

Nice find. It is an a Pesh Qabz and I would place it from modern day Afghanistan, most likely from the 1800s. It seems to be very nicely built. I don't think it is wootz, from the look of it in the pictures.

chiefheadknocker · 7th October 2018, 03:23 PM

Hi thanks for your reply , I have taken a few more pictures of the blade there seems to be a pattern to the blade but hard to photo,
thanks

Jens Nordlunde · 7th October 2018, 03:43 PM

Why dont you try to etch it?

Martin Lubojacky · 7th October 2018, 03:52 PM

Interesting structure of the material of the handle. If in Africa, I would be covinced - hipo tooth.

chiefheadknocker · 7th October 2018, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Why dont you try to etch it?

Hi , I have tried etching with white vinegar in the past but never seem to get a consistant finish so to speak , allways ends up slightly patchy maybe im not leaving it long enough , maybe I will give it another try on this blade.
thanks

AJ1356 · 7th October 2018, 04:38 PM

Try something stronger or immerse it in vinegar for much longer. I do see a little bit of pattern in the new picture though.

chiefheadknocker · 7th October 2018, 06:10 PM

I have taken a couple of pics with my mobile phone which seems to show the pattern slightly better

mariusgmioc · 7th October 2018, 10:22 PM

Your Pesh-kabz is, in my opinion, north Indian from early 19th century and certainly wootz. For etching, you can find a lot of information on this forum. I documented the process step by step.
Congratulations for such a nice piece!

7th October 2018, 11:59 AM	#1
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	long persian dagger / wootz blade ? Hi all ,this is another find which I have recently picked up , Im very much a novice but thought this dagger was of good quality , I believe its of Persian origin with ivory handle and is quite long measuring in total 40 cm and blade 29 cm , im stuck on whether this is a wootz blade ive tried to take a picture the best I can, is it advisable to etch the blade ? Attached Images

7th October 2018, 03:23 PM	#3
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	Hi thanks for your reply , I have taken a few more pictures of the blade there seems to be a pattern to the blade but hard to photo, thanks Attached Images

7th October 2018, 06:10 PM	#8
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	I have taken a couple of pics with my mobile phone which seems to show the pattern slightly better Attached Images

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7th October 2018, 02:59 PM	#2
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Nice find. It is an a Pesh Qabz and I would place it from modern day Afghanistan, most likely from the 1800s. It seems to be very nicely built. I don't think it is wootz, from the look of it in the pictures.

7th October 2018, 03:43 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Why dont you try to etch it?

7th October 2018, 03:52 PM	#5
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Interesting structure of the material of the handle. If in Africa, I would be covinced - hipo tooth.

7th October 2018, 04:38 PM	#7
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Try something stronger or immerse it in vinegar for much longer. I do see a little bit of pattern in the new picture though.

7th October 2018, 10:22 PM	#9
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Your Pesh-kabz is, in my opinion, north Indian from early 19th century and certainly wootz. For etching, you can find a lot of information on this forum. I documented the process step by step. Congratulations for such a nice piece!