Strange Turkish knife.-HELP!

Aurangzeb · 22nd January 2006, 11:55 PM

Hello all!

I just bought this off Ebay. I personally like it. It is identified as a ground down M.35 Turkish mauser bayonet. While I agree with the ground down bayonet, I think it might be the WWI model for he says it has a "prayer" on on it, whitch the M.35 does not but the WWI model does. The blade seems ground into a shabriya perhaps by a arab in Palestine or Jordan. I do think the sheath is a more recent and European.

Mark...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Aurangzeb · 24th January 2006, 10:53 PM

Hello?

Lew · 24th January 2006, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurangzeb

Hello?

Sorry Aurangzeb
This is something I know little about? I am sure there is a military collectors book out there that would be of some help.

Lew

not2sharp · 25th January 2006, 05:21 AM

It looks like a hacked up Turkish model 1890. The original bayonet would have been very impressive with a 463mm blade. I am not sure what you mean by a "prayer", but these were marked on the right side tang by a ruler's cypher.

n2s

TVV · 25th January 2006, 09:17 AM

Mark,
Turkish bayonets are such a complicated issue that I suggest contacting an expert on them, such as Dennis Ottobre, a.k.a. Otto, whose contact information you can find here:
http://www.ebayonet.com/
I believe he has issued a whole cd dedicated to the matter, so if there is anyone who can help you identify the pattern on this shortened bayonet, it is him. If there is indeed a tughra marking on the bayonet (I assume this is what the seller referred to by "a prayer"), a better picture of it can help the identification effort considerably.
Regards,
Teodor

Aurangzeb · 26th January 2006, 02:39 AM

Hello All!

I am 99% positive that the Cyper is the "prayer". Thank you TVV & n2s for the help, once I get it I will have better pics.

22nd January 2006, 11:55 PM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Strange Turkish knife.-HELP! Hello all! I just bought this off Ebay. I personally like it. It is identified as a ground down M.35 Turkish mauser bayonet. While I agree with the ground down bayonet, I think it might be the WWI model for he says it has a "prayer" on on it, whitch the M.35 does not but the WWI model does. The blade seems ground into a shabriya perhaps by a arab in Palestine or Jordan. I do think the sheath is a more recent and European. Mark... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

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24th January 2006, 10:53 PM	#2
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello?

25th January 2006, 05:21 AM	#4
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	It looks like a hacked up Turkish model 1890. The original bayonet would have been very impressive with a 463mm blade. I am not sure what you mean by a "prayer", but these were marked on the right side tang by a ruler's cypher. n2s

25th January 2006, 09:17 AM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Mark, Turkish bayonets are such a complicated issue that I suggest contacting an expert on them, such as Dennis Ottobre, a.k.a. Otto, whose contact information you can find here: http://www.ebayonet.com/ I believe he has issued a whole cd dedicated to the matter, so if there is anyone who can help you identify the pattern on this shortened bayonet, it is him. If there is indeed a tughra marking on the bayonet (I assume this is what the seller referred to by "a prayer"), a better picture of it can help the identification effort considerably. Regards, Teodor

26th January 2006, 02:39 AM	#6
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello All! I am 99% positive that the Cyper is the "prayer". Thank you TVV & n2s for the help, once I get it I will have better pics.