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Those who like African weapons might be interested to see this enormous Sudanese spear, length is 10 feet. I wonder how it would be used in combat, it being so unwieldy, being more suited for use from horseback ? Comments are welcome, also any references or if there are some comparable examples, please post them... |
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Hi Colin,
A very nice example. These do appear to have been used on horseback as well as ox back! See the attached photos. Don't see many of these around, congratulations on getting one with the shaft intact and in such good condition. ![]() |
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Thanks for your comments and the excellent photos. Glad you like the piece. The third image of the man on ox back is particularly striking. Reading up on the late 19th century Mahdist period and the various military encounters with the Anglo-Egyptian forces, it seems the Mahdists also employed large units of foot soldiers armed solely with these long spears and perhaps a sword. Presumably the idea was to simply overwhelm the opposition with a charging wall of steel, as in European mediaeval times ? Makes me think a little of the Scottish "schiltrons" and their very long spears... Looking forward to further comments on this topic. Regards. |
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a hewing spear - use it like an axe, as well as for stabbing.
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Colin,
I have one almost just like yours that I picked up in Kartoum back in the day. Had to shorten the shaft to get it into a duffel of kaskaras and on the plane. Will post a photo as soon as the Ballistol has done its magic on some surface rust. Since most of the Kalifa's supporters were Baggara, I'd suspect that these spears were predominant in the Battle of Omdurman. Ed |
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Smaldone's "Warfare in the Sokoto Caliphate" has a nice in-depth chapter on the typical tactics in use. Of course as reliable repeating firearms became available, they became a defunct force tactically. But they seem to have coexisted at least in the western Sahel along with muskets for quite a while. |
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Iain,
Great photo documentation of the Baggara spearmen. Colin, See attached photos. As I was oiling the blade I made a tactile discovery. As I rubbed my finger from the center ridge toward the edge the surface seemed to have a slight cup to it and raised to the "bevel" edge at the top of the second photo. The lower surface seemed flat, no bevel. When I turned the blade over and did the same finger rub to the other face, the edge that was flat on one side had a cupping and raised edge on the other. Thus, it seemed that they were able to create a raised edge for beveling on each side of the blade, but on opposite faces. Also, the surface looked like some bluing had remained. The first photo of the edge looks thicker at where the blade meets the haft. Also, the blade surface is very smooth with no hint of a forger' s hammer. These observations suggest to me that this spear may have been cut and formed by a mechanical die and the haft cold formed to accept the shaft. The Kalifa had armories in Omdurmun. Could it be that they were cranking out spear heads by the hundreds? The Kalifa's house museum displays a wind-up spring powered carriage. Could his forces possessed a greater technological sophistication than previously considered? Regards, Ed |
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Interesting thoughts Ed, just a quick suggestion, couldn't the lack of hammer work be down to the polishing/grinding typically done? This is the case on some spears I have/had.
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Thanks to Iain and Ed for their further comments.
Ed, its quite possible the Mahdists used mechanical assistance in making their spears, as they had reasonably modern workshops in Omdurman, having transferred over equipment from Khartoum after the fall of the city and death of General Gordon. I am attaching some extracts from the book "Khartoum Campaign" by Bennet Burleigh 1899, that may interest. Presumably they used European scrap iron ? I have noticed that these shalazieh spears all have bamboo shafts, wonder where the bamboo came from ? Iain, its quite correct of course, that the advent of modern firearms made spear and sword tactics redundant, more or less. However, if should be noted that the Mahdist Khalifa, Abdullahi made a major error in not attacking the Anglo-Egyptian forces during the night before the Battle of Omdurman, he could easily of done so and the end result might then have been significantly different. |
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Very interesting Colin, I had no idea they had that kind of machinery at their disposal. Thanks a lot for posting those extracts.
On the gun side, at least in the western Sahel there was a major effort to limit firearms filtering into the region, meaning that the vast majority were poor quality trade muskets. The captured arms in the Sudanese campaigns must have been quite a few levels above what was normally available. Still, numbers and tactics as you mentioned, could still swing a battle. |
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Salaams ~ General Gordon of Khartoum.
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After a little further research - it seems the Mahdists used the Baggara spear as a symbol on their coinage, as per attached image of a 20 piastre piece.
Interestingly, spears/long lances from the Arabian peninsula area also had a bamboo shaft as did Sudanese examples. I am posting a couple of extracts from "Traditional Crafts of Saudi Arabia" by John Topham, 1982. Wonder if there is a linkage ? |
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Colin,
I think the reeds in question are not "bamboo" as we normally think of them as hard surfaced segmented and usually hollow. Reeds commonly used in riverine Sudan are also segmented, but are solid with straight fiber insides, relatively light, mostly straight, up to two inches in diameter near the base and fairly rigid. Apparently ideal for spear shafts. When we were in Sudan, my son, being into Taekwando, noticed that fresh cow's tails were stretched over walking/herding/fighting sticks for improved grip. He wanted to use the light but thick reed as a fighting staff, and asked a local butcher to cover a five foot reed with a cow tail. The butcher used five overlapping cow tail segments to match the taper of the tail skin to that of the reed. Applied wet (freshly skinned) they shrink to a very tight fit and reinforce the reed from splitting during impact. It became a formidable weapon. He experience poses the question: were the reed spear shafts reinforced with cow tail skins to improve their performance? I've never seen evidence of this practice, but my experience is limited. Others may have encountered them. Regards, Ed |
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I havn't seen a cow tail covering on the few Baggara spears that I've come across. However, I've sometimes noticed this on Dinka/Shilluk clubs, but perhaps these were for grip purposes...
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The hollowed form of the blade on many African spearheads is apparently a by product of using stone/pebble anvils.
Ref.M.J.Swanton 1973 The Spearheads of the Anglo-Saxon Settlements ISBN 0 903986 01 9 Chap 6 footnote 6 Where this feature is noted and discussed as appearing on both Anglo-Saxon and African spearheads. I don't normaly bother much with referrences but some people seem to like them. |
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Salaams all... The name of the spear in Arabic is Rhoum. I believe it came from the word for long pointed leaf (Some say it is linked to the city name Rome).. When gunpowder began to take over that weapons role... the name passed to the long rifle also called the Abu Futtilla(the one with the match) or Jezail.
Rhoumi is, thus, the other word for the Arabian muzzle loading rifle. ![]() Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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