Ainu Sword

ariel · 2nd November 2005, 02:35 AM

Doesn't look Ainu to me; they had katana-like swords, see example:
http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_..._jp_ainug.html
This one looks like a modern Chinese production, down to the damascus pattern of the blade and fresh garish paint of the scabbard.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Am I off by much?

Rivkin · 2nd November 2005, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Doesn't look Ainu to me; they had katana-like swords, see example:
http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_..._jp_ainug.html
This one looks like a modern Chinese production, down to the damascus pattern of the blade and fresh garish paint of the scabbard.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Am I off by much?

The second one (ebay) is indeed chinese crap with acid etched damascus;
The first one, afaik, is real ainu sword

VANDOO · 2nd November 2005, 04:39 AM

I WOULD AGREE THAT THE KNIFE AND THE SWORD IN THE FIRST LINK APPEAR TO BE AINU. I HAD A AINU KNIFE VERY SIMULAR TO THE ONE PICTURED THERE ITS GOOD TO SEE A PICTURE OF A SWORD EVEN IF IT LOOKS LIKE A PRESENTATION SWORD. THE SECOND ONE DOES INDEED LOOK LIKE NEW POORLY MADE TOURIST STUFF.

Miyamoto · 2nd November 2005, 10:16 AM

The guy bought one of thoose "masterpieces" from China and then blinded from its quality, decided to resell it on the most honourable auction house of all times.

Gorgeus ainu to on the first link!

Yes ainu people produced mainly short swords (aka wakizashi) with not verry quality blade but the fittings on thoose rarely seen pieces are adorned with a lot of motherpearl, and other ornamets, like bear claws itd...

pbleed · 7th November 2005, 02:57 AM

Sorry to reopen this old thread, but I have been interested in Ainu blades for sometime so this re: line one peeked my fancy.
I currently have six Ainu blades and have seen and/or handled another 30 or so. I'm sure this is in no way Ainu-related. I'll bet this sword cane is some manner of modern "Chinoisserie" - certainly not Ainu.
I can only assume that the market for the stuff being made in China today is not very deep so that imaginative marketeers are always looking for new stories. I wonder if anyone ever bites on yarms like this
Peter

Peter

ariel · 7th November 2005, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbleed

Sorry to reopen this old thread, but I have been interested in Ainu blades for sometime so this re: line one peeked my fancy.
I currently have six Ainu blades and have seen and/or handled another 30 or so. I'm sure this is in no way Ainu-related. I'll bet this sword cane is some manner of modern "Chinoisserie" - certainly not Ainu.
I can only assume that the market for the stuff being made in China today is not very deep so that imaginative marketeers are always looking for new stories. I wonder if anyone ever bites on yarms like this
Peter

Peter

Peter,
I think everybody here on the Forum wants to see your Ainu swords!!!!!
Can you post them please?

2nd November 2005, 02:35 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Ainu Sword Doesn't look Ainu to me; they had katana-like swords, see example: http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_..._jp_ainug.html This one looks like a modern Chinese production, down to the damascus pattern of the blade and fresh garish paint of the scabbard. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Am I off by much?

7th November 2005, 02:57 AM	#5
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 88	ainu sword Sorry to reopen this old thread, but I have been interested in Ainu blades for sometime so this re: line one peeked my fancy. I currently have six Ainu blades and have seen and/or handled another 30 or so. I'm sure this is in no way Ainu-related. I'll bet this sword cane is some manner of modern "Chinoisserie" - certainly not Ainu. I can only assume that the market for the stuff being made in China today is not very deep so that imaginative marketeers are always looking for new stories. I wonder if anyone ever bites on yarms like this Peter Peter

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2nd November 2005, 04:39 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WOULD AGREE THAT THE KNIFE AND THE SWORD IN THE FIRST LINK APPEAR TO BE AINU. I HAD A AINU KNIFE VERY SIMULAR TO THE ONE PICTURED THERE ITS GOOD TO SEE A PICTURE OF A SWORD EVEN IF IT LOOKS LIKE A PRESENTATION SWORD. THE SECOND ONE DOES INDEED LOOK LIKE NEW POORLY MADE TOURIST STUFF.

2nd November 2005, 10:16 AM	#4
Miyamoto Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 44	The guy bought one of thoose "masterpieces" from China and then blinded from its quality, decided to resell it on the most honourable auction house of all times. Gorgeus ainu to on the first link! Yes ainu people produced mainly short swords (aka wakizashi) with not verry quality blade but the fittings on thoose rarely seen pieces are adorned with a lot of motherpearl, and other ornamets, like bear claws itd...