What is this sword?

tagalanao · 17th September 2005, 04:12 AM

Hi,

A few of you may have already seen this. More comments appreciated. Got this from Marawi. The blade could easily cut a nail. It's huge and heavy. My Maranao contact says it's a Moro blade. But he also jokingly refers to it as the "Barbarian." Maybe he saw Conan the Barbarian.

Thanks!

BobT

philkid · 17th September 2005, 05:33 AM

Hi Bob, I have also been offered a sword similar to that but with different style. It has a superb quality blade but the hilt and scabbard was somekind of funny since it was colored with the Philippine flag. I think it is more of a Luzon type hilt but the blade is somewhat like that of the sword of "Panday". Do you think our friends in Lanao are also reproducing swords like that of Luzon? Can you give me its measurements?

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 04:13 PM

If it'd be older, I'd say a refurnitured Oakeshott XI, or a XIII . Unfortunatuly, they'd be 12-14th century... so it's out, but the blade design, the lenght (the Albions' blade is longer only with 3"), and the mentioned cutting ability is all too familiar. BTW, I love cutting sword like these. So I don't know... is it possible that it remained in fashion for so long?

Ian · 17th September 2005, 05:05 PM

This is almost certainly a Moro copy of a European broadsword. I have a provenanced example, complete with wooden scabbard, that was commissioned in Lanao del Sur in the early 20th C by a US Administrator.

The Moro origin is probably correct. Nice sword.

Ian.

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 05:46 PM

What do you mean by broadsword? The middle-age, or the early modern-age one? Just for clearing things up in my mind.

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 05:48 PM

I forgot to add this to my earlier post AND the newer one as well. Moro origin is correct as far as I know, but I'm faaaaar from being an expert.

zamboanga · 19th September 2005, 08:27 AM

here is an example of a maranao made jian.

At first the only thing I knew about this was that it's maranao made.

I was enlightened as to the name of the sword it tries to copy in a previous thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...4&page=1&pp=30.

VVV · 19th September 2005, 09:29 AM

Hi Zamboanga,

I recognise that sword

But the blade is more wakizashi than a jian.

Michael

Ahriman · 19th September 2005, 10:12 AM

Even as I didn't ever study chinese MAs, I recall short-edge usage from my deep memories of a lesson from a relative...

Which means that a jian is not only straight but double-edged as well. If I'm wrong, tell me, so I can challange him for a duel with reason.

BTW, nice sword, even if it's short for my taste.

17th September 2005, 04:12 AM	#1
tagalanao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lanao, Philippines Posts: 37	What is this sword? Hi, A few of you may have already seen this. More comments appreciated. Got this from Marawi. The blade could easily cut a nail. It's huge and heavy. My Maranao contact says it's a Moro blade. But he also jokingly refers to it as the "Barbarian." Maybe he saw Conan the Barbarian. Thanks! BobT Attached Images

19th September 2005, 08:27 AM	#7
zamboanga Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zamboanga city, philippines Posts: 132	Maranao made jian here is an example of a maranao made jian. At first the only thing I knew about this was that it's maranao made. I was enlightened as to the name of the sword it tries to copy in a previous thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...4&page=1&pp=30. Attached Images

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17th September 2005, 05:33 AM	#2
philkid Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 52	Hi Bob, I have also been offered a sword similar to that but with different style. It has a superb quality blade but the hilt and scabbard was somekind of funny since it was colored with the Philippine flag. I think it is more of a Luzon type hilt but the blade is somewhat like that of the sword of "Panday". Do you think our friends in Lanao are also reproducing swords like that of Luzon? Can you give me its measurements?

17th September 2005, 04:13 PM	#3
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	If it'd be older, I'd say a refurnitured Oakeshott XI, or a XIII . Unfortunatuly, they'd be 12-14th century... so it's out, but the blade design, the lenght (the Albions' blade is longer only with 3"), and the mentioned cutting ability is all too familiar. BTW, I love cutting sword like these. So I don't know... is it possible that it remained in fashion for so long?

17th September 2005, 05:05 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,360	This is almost certainly a Moro copy of a European broadsword. I have a provenanced example, complete with wooden scabbard, that was commissioned in Lanao del Sur in the early 20th C by a US Administrator. The Moro origin is probably correct. Nice sword. Ian.

17th September 2005, 05:46 PM	#5
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	What do you mean by broadsword? The middle-age, or the early modern-age one? Just for clearing things up in my mind.

17th September 2005, 05:48 PM	#6
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	I forgot to add this to my earlier post AND the newer one as well. Moro origin is correct as far as I know, but I'm faaaaar from being an expert.

19th September 2005, 09:29 AM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Zamboanga, I recognise that sword But the blade is more wakizashi than a jian. Michael

19th September 2005, 10:12 AM	#9
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	Even as I didn't ever study chinese MAs, I recall short-edge usage from my deep memories of a lesson from a relative... Which means that a jian is not only straight but double-edged as well. If I'm wrong, tell me, so I can challange him for a duel with reason. BTW, nice sword, even if it's short for my taste.