Just a thought

drdavid · 13th December 2005, 09:59 AM

Having read through a lot of the archived posts in the last few weeks, I noticed that a fair few dealt with picking the modern copies and outright frauds which regularly turn up for sale in a variety of places but particularly on E-bay. I wonder whether it is worth putting photos of everyones "poor buys" on one sticky post to assist us with the 'caveat emptor' principle. In other words if we had a "library" of things not to buy it might be advantageous. If we just use links to various items then they go dead over time. Written warnings like the sticky at the top of this forum are helpful, but a pictorial library would also be a great asset especially for newcomers. It would not be necessary to identify any particular seller (and hence you avoid the legal problems) just a picture of what not to buy. Perhaps this has been done in the past on the forum but if so I have been unable to find it. Just a thought.

Yannis · 13th December 2005, 10:54 AM

A sticky tread titled "what to avoid" needs hundreds of pages and thousands of photos. An Ebay search on the word “sword” is apocalyptic. 99.5% of the results are to avoid. The only way we have to know the difference in ethnographic stuff is to read books and forums. Lot of them. And after that to pray we don’t make the mistake. But still we often do.

I suppose in Ebay we all hope to find a wrong described item that give no attraction to buyers but WE know it is good. I also wish to win the lottery.

I am not a dha person but here there are 2 small dhas, almost similar to my eyes. One went 2 times higher because it had the magic word “dha” in description. The other was a find.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7372761505

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6586344378

Tim Simmons · 13th December 2005, 05:48 PM

I think a rouges gallery is a great idea but I do not think egos would make it work. There might also be an element of protection for those with a commercial interest.

Yannis, the cheaper dha looked like the one with best condition. Tim

Rick · 13th December 2005, 05:59 PM

Not to mention the possibility of such a thread actually helping the forgers make better ersatz pieces .

Andrew · 13th December 2005, 06:05 PM

I'm not sure we necessarily want to publish a primer on fakes and frauds.

To many fakes and frauds read these pages.

Emanuel · 13th December 2005, 10:39 PM

Speaking of dha, here is another poorly advertised, is it not?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Andrew · 14th December 2005, 05:23 AM

Yes. Very badly

These are nice knives, but none of them look particulaly wellmade.

13th December 2005, 09:59 AM	#1
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Just a thought Having read through a lot of the archived posts in the last few weeks, I noticed that a fair few dealt with picking the modern copies and outright frauds which regularly turn up for sale in a variety of places but particularly on E-bay. I wonder whether it is worth putting photos of everyones "poor buys" on one sticky post to assist us with the 'caveat emptor' principle. In other words if we had a "library" of things not to buy it might be advantageous. If we just use links to various items then they go dead over time. Written warnings like the sticky at the top of this forum are helpful, but a pictorial library would also be a great asset especially for newcomers. It would not be necessary to identify any particular seller (and hence you avoid the legal problems) just a picture of what not to buy. Perhaps this has been done in the past on the forum but if so I have been unable to find it. Just a thought.

13th December 2005, 10:54 AM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	A sticky tread titled "what to avoid" needs hundreds of pages and thousands of photos. An Ebay search on the word “sword” is apocalyptic. 99.5% of the results are to avoid. The only way we have to know the difference in ethnographic stuff is to read books and forums. Lot of them. And after that to pray we don’t make the mistake. But still we often do. I suppose in Ebay we all hope to find a wrong described item that give no attraction to buyers but WE know it is good. I also wish to win the lottery. I am not a dha person but here there are 2 small dhas, almost similar to my eyes. One went 2 times higher because it had the magic word “dha” in description. The other was a find. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7372761505 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6586344378

13th December 2005, 05:48 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	I think a rouges gallery is a great idea but I do not think egos would make it work. There might also be an element of protection for those with a commercial interest. Yannis, the cheaper dha looked like the one with best condition. Tim

13th December 2005, 05:59 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Not to mention the possibility of such a thread actually helping the forgers make better ersatz pieces .

13th December 2005, 06:05 PM	#5
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I'm not sure we necessarily want to publish a primer on fakes and frauds. To many fakes and frauds read these pages.

13th December 2005, 10:39 PM	#6
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Speaking of dha, here is another poorly advertised, is it not? http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

14th December 2005, 05:23 AM	#7
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Yes. Very badly These are nice knives, but none of them look particulaly wellmade.