coments on this...a help

blacklacrau · 14th January 2008, 11:14 PM

I´m a new member on this forum and I would like to have some information about this keris; its shape, pamor and so on.
Could any of you give me some idea as to possible age, origin, is it a tourist item…a fake…. or authentic?, etc :

I would appreciate any comments or information you may have.
Thanks in advance for any comments.

Emanuel · 15th January 2008, 12:37 AM

Hey there, welcome to the forum!

You can be at ease, this is an authentic keris. It seems to be from Solo, dapur Tilam Upih I think, could be Brodjol. The pamor could be wos wutah.
No way to tell the age, but it looks old to me. I like the ukiran and wrongko a lot. Too bad the gandar is damaged though.
I'm sure you'll get more accurate answers from the many knowledgeable folks here.

Regards,
Emanuel

PenangsangII · 15th January 2008, 02:00 AM

Strange ukiran for a Solo piece, almost like a hybrid of Jawa & Solo

Emanuel · 15th January 2008, 02:27 AM

Hmm, Rahardjo (2003) has a similar one listed as Yogya, and yet another one as Surakarta, so maybe Solo not far off

In any case I always thought this type of ukiran looked a bit Balinese, so eastern Java would perhaps do it?

PenangsangII · 15th January 2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Manolo

Hmm, Rahardjo (2003) has a similar one listed as Yogya, and yet another one as Surakarta, so maybe Solo not far off

In any case I always thought this type of ukiran looked a bit Balinese, so eastern Java would perhaps do it?

Even Lombok's origin cannot be ruled out, I think.

sipakatuo · 15th January 2008, 06:47 AM

It seems old to me. If I am not mistaken, your keris is dapur tilam upih, pamor beras wutah. It could be Mataram but more likely Padjajaran if looking at the gandik and ganja (small and a bit rounded). Warangka made of Kayu Timoho with Gayaman Solo style. Handle made of Kayu Timoho. Your mendak and Handle could be from Eastern part of Java.

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15th January 2008, 12:37 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hey there, welcome to the forum! You can be at ease, this is an authentic keris. It seems to be from Solo, dapur Tilam Upih I think, could be Brodjol. The pamor could be wos wutah. No way to tell the age, but it looks old to me. I like the ukiran and wrongko a lot. Too bad the gandar is damaged though. I'm sure you'll get more accurate answers from the many knowledgeable folks here. Regards, Emanuel

15th January 2008, 02:00 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Strange ukiran for a Solo piece, almost like a hybrid of Jawa & Solo

15th January 2008, 02:27 AM	#4
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hmm, Rahardjo (2003) has a similar one listed as Yogya, and yet another one as Surakarta, so maybe Solo not far off In any case I always thought this type of ukiran looked a bit Balinese, so eastern Java would perhaps do it?

15th January 2008, 06:47 AM	#6
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	It seems old to me. If I am not mistaken, your keris is dapur tilam upih, pamor beras wutah. It could be Mataram but more likely Padjajaran if looking at the gandik and ganja (small and a bit rounded). Warangka made of Kayu Timoho with Gayaman Solo style. Handle made of Kayu Timoho. Your mendak and Handle could be from Eastern part of Java.