New book: Arms and Armor from Iran

ariel · 19th September 2006, 01:52 AM

Just got it and just started reding. No opinion yet except that it has nice pictures and very weak binding: the book is so heavy that the binding pulled apart after 20 minutes.
Warning: read it only when it is flat on the table and do not keep it vertical!

Andrew · 19th September 2006, 03:56 AM

I'm really very excited about this book! From the reviews I've read, it promises to be a definitive work.

I'll be placing my order this week.

wolviex · 19th September 2006, 07:37 AM

I'm still trying to gather money for this book

Hope to get it in next 6 months

Ariel: what do you mean about your warning

B.I · 19th September 2006, 08:28 AM

hi michal,
i have also heard that the book is way too heavy for the binding, hence the warning.
i dont have it yet, and have asked for opinions from people that have and no one is willing to commit themselves.
ariel - read faster!!
i have no doubt the historical side will be well written.
what about the catalogued descriptions?
we know that museums sometimes use a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to dating. does the author lift the descriptions, or use his own opinion?
the latter is what we are all after in any new publication, but the former is what we normally end up with.

Andreas Volk · 19th September 2006, 03:27 PM

Dear fellow Enthusiasts!
I also received the book and worked through parts of it - it's a huge ammount of info and I'm quite busy at the moment.

First in regards to the binding:
Mine is still intact, and I didn't read it on a table as I dragged it arround with
me during a few days of business travel;
So ariel: I'd suggest that you contact the publisher. A book coming apart
after 20 minutes is totally unacceptable and I'd ask them for a replacement.
that is the least thing they should do (including postage).
If it helps you can use my statement here as a refference in any negotiation
- as my binding is still solid.

On the subject that this book was called a "definitive work", or that it is
regarded "definitive" by some of the readers:
I would call such statements "over excitement" by some individuals and it
makes me raise at least one eye brow

Don't get me wrong - it truly is a book that I'm excited about - at least in
regards to chapter 7 and 10 that I've read so far (and with my
limited knowledge of persian history I'd have better started with chapter 1)
But calling something "definitive" is out of place. No academic book will
ever be definitive - labeling it as such denies the progress of mankind.

Religious and holy text are regarded as "definite" or "definitive" by their
believers, academic works can be "ground breaking", "revealing", etc. -
but never definitive.

Just my 2 euro cents.

So I'll get back to chapter 1 now
kind regards

Andreas Volk

Flavio · 19th September 2006, 05:10 PM

WOW

i see the price on amazon and for sure is very expensive !!!!

wolviex · 19th September 2006, 05:20 PM

I hope it will be ok to post a link to official site of this impressive book where more info can be gathered:

http://www.arms-and-armor-from-iran.de/

19th September 2006, 01:52 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	New book: Arms and Armor from Iran Just got it and just started reding. No opinion yet except that it has nice pictures and very weak binding: the book is so heavy that the binding pulled apart after 20 minutes. Warning: read it only when it is flat on the table and do not keep it vertical!

19th September 2006, 03:27 PM	#5
Andreas Volk Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South of Germany Posts: 8	Arms and Armor from Iran - a first impression Dear fellow Enthusiasts! I also received the book and worked through parts of it - it's a huge ammount of info and I'm quite busy at the moment. First in regards to the binding: Mine is still intact, and I didn't read it on a table as I dragged it arround with me during a few days of business travel; So ariel: I'd suggest that you contact the publisher. A book coming apart after 20 minutes is totally unacceptable and I'd ask them for a replacement. that is the least thing they should do (including postage). If it helps you can use my statement here as a refference in any negotiation - as my binding is still solid. On the subject that this book was called a "definitive work", or that it is regarded "definitive" by some of the readers: I would call such statements "over excitement" by some individuals and it makes me raise at least one eye brow Don't get me wrong - it truly is a book that I'm excited about - at least in regards to chapter 7 and 10 that I've read so far (and with my limited knowledge of persian history I'd have better started with chapter 1) But calling something "definitive" is out of place. No academic book will ever be definitive - labeling it as such denies the progress of mankind. Religious and holy text are regarded as "definite" or "definitive" by their believers, academic works can be "ground breaking", "revealing", etc. - but never definitive. Just my 2 euro cents. So I'll get back to chapter 1 now kind regards Andreas Volk

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19th September 2006, 03:56 AM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I'm really very excited about this book! From the reviews I've read, it promises to be a definitive work. I'll be placing my order this week.

19th September 2006, 07:37 AM	#3
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	I'm still trying to gather money for this book Hope to get it in next 6 months Ariel: what do you mean about your warning

19th September 2006, 08:28 AM	#4
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	hi michal, i have also heard that the book is way too heavy for the binding, hence the warning. i dont have it yet, and have asked for opinions from people that have and no one is willing to commit themselves. ariel - read faster!! i have no doubt the historical side will be well written. what about the catalogued descriptions? we know that museums sometimes use a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to dating. does the author lift the descriptions, or use his own opinion? the latter is what we are all after in any new publication, but the former is what we normally end up with.

19th September 2006, 05:10 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	WOW i see the price on amazon and for sure is very expensive !!!!

19th September 2006, 05:20 PM	#7
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	I hope it will be ok to post a link to official site of this impressive book where more info can be gathered: http://www.arms-and-armor-from-iran.de/