Euroblade Indonesian sword?

drdavid · 21st December 2005, 08:57 PM

Hi all, this just ended,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
It looks to me like a European sword/sabre blade on an old Indonesian hilt but that the pairing occured quite some time ago. There is a not dissimilar item on Artzi site I think.

nechesh · 21st December 2005, 10:29 PM

Well the pics aren't good enough for me to tell, but the hilt looks Sumatran to me. The winner is a member here so maybe Charles will chime in and tell us what he saw in this piece.

Ian · 22nd December 2005, 03:10 AM

Perhaps Chuck thought it was one of these that we discussed recently: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1641

Different hilt of course but the blade has some similarity.

Look forward to Chuck's comments.

Ian.

CharlesS · 23rd December 2005, 01:06 AM

You fellas are right about the pics being less than perfect.

It is certainly a Sumatran hilt, but the scabbard does not really strike me as Sumatran at all, though there are infinite variations.

It's possible this is native made blade, but again the pics make it impossible to tell if there is a pattern in the blade or not. It appears heavily patinated.

More likely it is a cut down Dutch blade, especially noting the way the blade fits flush and a bit awkwardly into the hilt.

I really like Sumatran pieces, from all over Sumatra. If you have handled one of these hilts you know they feel so comfortable in the hand. This piece is a stabber or a slasher it appears, but based on the way it is mounted I'd say it was intended as a stabber, even with the modest curve. That hilt could not take a lot pressure(note there is no ferrule, no form or reinforcement) that slashing would require.

With a little restoration it can be a nice example.

21st December 2005, 08:57 PM	#1
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Euroblade Indonesian sword? Hi all, this just ended, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 It looks to me like a European sword/sabre blade on an old Indonesian hilt but that the pairing occured quite some time ago. There is a not dissimilar item on Artzi site I think.

21st December 2005, 10:29 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Well the pics aren't good enough for me to tell, but the hilt looks Sumatran to me. The winner is a member here so maybe Charles will chime in and tell us what he saw in this piece.

22nd December 2005, 03:10 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Perhaps Chuck thought it was one of these that we discussed recently: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1641 Different hilt of course but the blade has some similarity. Look forward to Chuck's comments. Ian.

23rd December 2005, 01:06 AM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	You fellas are right about the pics being less than perfect. It is certainly a Sumatran hilt, but the scabbard does not really strike me as Sumatran at all, though there are infinite variations. It's possible this is native made blade, but again the pics make it impossible to tell if there is a pattern in the blade or not. It appears heavily patinated. More likely it is a cut down Dutch blade, especially noting the way the blade fits flush and a bit awkwardly into the hilt. I really like Sumatran pieces, from all over Sumatra. If you have handled one of these hilts you know they feel so comfortable in the hand. This piece is a stabber or a slasher it appears, but based on the way it is mounted I'd say it was intended as a stabber, even with the modest curve. That hilt could not take a lot pressure(note there is no ferrule, no form or reinforcement) that slashing would require. With a little restoration it can be a nice example.