Hi Michael,
Yeah, the
Bitte was for you
.
You see, you being the expert in this area, i don't know the polite way to ask you personnaly for your precious coments without risking to disencourage other guys to post their remarks.
Thanks a lot for your diagnosis on these two examples. It is true i can't hide some disappointment for them not being older.
Oh well, you can't win 'em all.
When they arrive, tomorrow, i will take some pictures and examine the things with(out) a clinic eye, to check whether they are wrought or found iron, their actual shape and other details. Maybe there is a chance to add some time to their apparent antiquity ?!
.
Fernando