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					Originally Posted by Gustav
					
				 
				In the last time I have seen another east-javanese/maduranese Keris, probably the begin of the second half of 19 century, in a good dress (most likely original), with a similar kind of pamor, and ganja also seems to be not separate. 
 
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 Welcome to the forum Gustav. As best i can tell the gonjo is indeed seperate in both the keris from this thread and the one you just posted. In hand i might have a different opinion.