[kai]

Hello Alan,

I remember seeing blades with similar ugly pamor, in Sumatran style, and of quite recent production. I'm not sure I cared to archive pics but will have a look...

These East Jawa and Madura keris were stiff in their form, they nearly always used simple mlumah pamor, if they were picture keris --- ie, with nagas or whatever --- those pictures were pretty crude and often evidence of modern technolgy was there to be seen, such as drilled rather than punched holes.

In some respects it does resemble keris that can be associated with the East Jawa/Madura product of 1920's to 1960's.

The indicators are the stiff pawakan, the flat gonjo, the method of naga sculpture, the pamor style, the luk style.

Thanks a lot for your detailed info! This certainly makes more sense in light of the Madurese fittings.

Does such crude/ugly pamor also pop up from other areas like central Jawa or Sunda?

Regards,
Kai