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					Originally Posted by cecas24
					
				 
				...#2) For anyone who has traveled to Bali, have you observed specific deities used only for holders ? (not those produced for tourists, but rather traditional holders) 
#3) Does anyone on this site own a holder dating further back than 1920? (Could I get a peek at it?)    
			
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 I am not sure whether this keris holder was dating further back than 1920 or not. This figure is probably Anggada -- ape-human in Ramayana story, the only son of Resi Subali and Dewi Tara -- and not the figure of Anoman...
About Anggada. When Anggada was still infant, his father Resi Subali was dead by the arrow of Ramawijaya -- during Subali and his brother Sugriwa were quarelling to get Dewi Tara (mother of Anggada). Anggada then grew up with Sugriwa, who later married to Dewi Tara.
This (ape-human) quarrels between two brothers (Subali vs Sugriwa) in Ramayana story, were also a "power struggle" to seize the reign in Guakiskenda -- Kingdom of the apes...