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josh stout · 11th January 2008, 02:59 PM

There is some disagreement about village made jian with "one piece" guards and pommels. My best understanding of the situation is that there were a large number of these weapons made for irregular groups that sprang up at the beginning and the end of the Qing. There were also similar ones made throughout the Qing thus blurring stylistic elements and making dating difficult.

This is what I think is a Ming jian from the end of the dynasty. The patina is quite thick and dark, while the style is typical of Ming jian with a typical large pommel and upturned guard.

Mid 17th C village made jian:

http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...81E5899100.jpg

http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...81E5899102.jpg

11th January 2008, 02:59 PM	#1
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Ming jian There is some disagreement about village made jian with "one piece" guards and pommels. My best understanding of the situation is that there were a large number of these weapons made for irregular groups that sprang up at the beginning and the end of the Qing. There were also similar ones made throughout the Qing thus blurring stylistic elements and making dating difficult. This is what I think is a Ming jian from the end of the dynasty. The patina is quite thick and dark, while the style is typical of Ming jian with a typical large pommel and upturned guard. Mid 17th C village made jian: http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...81E5899100.jpg http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...81E5899102.jpg