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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh
Good point Ben. Do you have an answer?
Add to this the fact that there are a small finite number of authentic pieces. And there are many village craftsmen producing weapons in the same manner their ancestors made them. Are these authentic?
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These are not authentic if they make them the same as long time before because the simple answer these are not from the time period that they orginally made in.
repro weapons are these.
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Originally Posted by rand
The deluge of fakes is exactly why objects with provinece retain a greater value than their unpunlished counterparts. When items reach a high value copies/fakes begin to be made and sold to the unsuspecting Buyer.
As values get even higher the modern forgeries get more sophisticated to the point of buying old farm implements from the same time period as a sword and then forging a blade from that steel. High end European rapiers are the perfect example of this happening, even astute dealers are wary. For that reason items with provinence to a European collection prior to 1920 carry a much greater value.
The Islamic arms have been fairly free of this simply because there is just too much work on making a copy, also the fact that the steels are until recently immune form duplication.
The Indonesian arms seem to be in the early stages of this process. Pommels are especially easy target for a forger looking to inflate value. Thats why an arena such as this forum is of such great benefit.
Personally I do not understand why we cannot talk about any object, even if it is offered for sale. In reality everything is available for the right price. When I see an obvious fake offered its makes me feel sorry for the possible Buyer who made end their collecting after one bad purchase.
Hence the value of an astute Dealer, they are an asset to the collecting community.
Dry Roads,
rand
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It is not alowed to discus what is on ebay here .
But If they change this rule a lot off forum members would
be better informed what they buy on ebay.
In my opinion It would be better if they can change the rule but I don t now If they wanna do it.
Sometimes provonance found be later ,
I did buy this container a few years ago
By one that I consider the best Tribal Art dealer That I know (my Oldman Jimpul came from him ) very good trust full man I can buy from him whit out seeing the object .
A few weeks ago I did get this article in my Hands
it shows that it was collected between 1898 -1899
Ben