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A. G. Maisey · 21st May 2007, 01:37 PM

Thank you Raden for expanding my knowledge of the Javanese language.

I have only ever heard the pin, inserted in keris to reduce its heat, referred to as a paku or a pasak, now I have learnt that some people also refer to it as a panthek.

Similarly, I have understood---and in fact only ever heard--- "lerem" to mean "to calm down", whilst "meneng" I have understood as "to be quiet".A question of two minutes ago to another native speaker of Javanese has given me the meaning of "to shut your eyes" for merem.

You have taught me entirely different meanings.

This is the difference between a native speaker of a language and one who has only limited understanding.

Would you be so kind as to tell me the area of Jawa where you learnt these meanings?

Thank you.

21st May 2007, 01:37 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thank you Raden for expanding my knowledge of the Javanese language. I have only ever heard the pin, inserted in keris to reduce its heat, referred to as a paku or a pasak, now I have learnt that some people also refer to it as a panthek. Similarly, I have understood---and in fact only ever heard--- "lerem" to mean "to calm down", whilst "meneng" I have understood as "to be quiet".A question of two minutes ago to another native speaker of Javanese has given me the meaning of "to shut your eyes" for merem. You have taught me entirely different meanings. This is the difference between a native speaker of a language and one who has only limited understanding. Would you be so kind as to tell me the area of Jawa where you learnt these meanings? Thank you.