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					Originally Posted by Jim McDougall  ...It seems we have been remiss in not formally welcoming Roger to the forum... | 
	
 Not really (per post #2) 
 
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					Originally Posted by Jim McDougall   ... It should be noted as far as 'Spanish style', in the mid 17th century, Toledo was effectively in decline... | 
	
 Is that so, Jim ? Do you mean the center or the masters ?. Sebastian Hernandez was active in the 1630's and showing his mastership; this cited by Palomares and Estruch, ... rigth ?