Ethnographic Arms & Armour - View Single Post - Sword of the Last Armenian King: 14th century

tsubame1 · 30th May 2006, 10:22 PM

The pictures taken in Venice are mine. As a quiet good NihonTo expert I would suggest that using such poorly made pictures for a Kantei (sword judgment in japanese terms) is a very bad idea no matter how great is the knowledge. On SFI it has been clearly stated in the topics that he date is mismatching by 25 years, and this is notorious to the monks too.
Calendars changed during the time and documents about the swords are not available for consultation, YET.
Me an Manouchehr aren't searching for an Indiana Jones cheap notoriety but only to find what is really in the Sancta Sanctorum of San Lazzaro degli Armeni. I've personally got in touch with the father superior rev. Elia (surname omitted for privacy, makes your own research...) in order to handle and measure the blade directly, as well as to have a translation of the inlaids that are mainly Psalms. CHRISTIAN Psalms. If we're allowed to make it, stay sure we'll post results and EVIDENCIES here too, no matter about the results.
The blade is armenian. PERIOD. If it has been made in XVII c. by an iranian bladesmith with iranian or indian wootz, and in the classical iranian shape, it is treasured by the Mechitarist as the sword of the last Armenian King in the site that holds most of the whole cultural heritage of Armenian people. Till to evidencies of the contrary will be given by someone here with a too big mouth and possibly with some problem with Manouchehr, it still retain the title of the sword of the last armenian king, for respect to the Mechitarist word.
We all know the myth and swords walks together but to find out truth
needs ability, time, knowledge and ACTION. Manouchehr is trying to go to Venice in order to find out the truth. As a NihonTo collector and amateur I'm very little interested in the matter but I feel hurted the way it is managed here just to have a support that is not found on SFI, might be with a good reason.
More respect is due to the blade, the Mechitarists and Manouchehr.
BTW the sword is freely available (with a thick glass in between...) to everybody by decades. Get a ticket to Venice and prove Manouchehr is wrong before he proves he's right...
As for me, I'm going to oil my newly arrived Naginata.
Cheers to all.

30th May 2006, 10:22 PM	#5
tsubame1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Magenta, Northern Italy Posts: 123	What's happening ? The pictures taken in Venice are mine. As a quiet good NihonTo expert I would suggest that using such poorly made pictures for a Kantei (sword judgment in japanese terms) is a very bad idea no matter how great is the knowledge. On SFI it has been clearly stated in the topics that he date is mismatching by 25 years, and this is notorious to the monks too. Calendars changed during the time and documents about the swords are not available for consultation, YET. Me an Manouchehr aren't searching for an Indiana Jones cheap notoriety but only to find what is really in the Sancta Sanctorum of San Lazzaro degli Armeni. I've personally got in touch with the father superior rev. Elia (surname omitted for privacy, makes your own research...) in order to handle and measure the blade directly, as well as to have a translation of the inlaids that are mainly Psalms. CHRISTIAN Psalms. If we're allowed to make it, stay sure we'll post results and EVIDENCIES here too, no matter about the results. The blade is armenian. PERIOD. If it has been made in XVII c. by an iranian bladesmith with iranian or indian wootz, and in the classical iranian shape, it is treasured by the Mechitarist as the sword of the last Armenian King in the site that holds most of the whole cultural heritage of Armenian people. Till to evidencies of the contrary will be given by someone here with a too big mouth and possibly with some problem with Manouchehr, it still retain the title of the sword of the last armenian king, for respect to the Mechitarist word. We all know the myth and swords walks together but to find out truth needs ability, time, knowledge and ACTION. Manouchehr is trying to go to Venice in order to find out the truth. As a NihonTo collector and amateur I'm very little interested in the matter but I feel hurted the way it is managed here just to have a support that is not found on SFI, might be with a good reason. More respect is due to the blade, the Mechitarists and Manouchehr. BTW the sword is freely available (with a thick glass in between...) to everybody by decades. Get a ticket to Venice and prove Manouchehr is wrong before he proves he's right... As for me, I'm going to oil my newly arrived Naginata. Cheers to all.