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Mans · 5th November 2005, 06:03 PM

Hi dear all,

Just need to give my opinion about Simatua keris, I think KC is right about old keris out of Indonesia and any other ancient artifact.

.... back to the keris and wangka, The dapur (shape) of Simatua keris not Pandawa, but Pulanggeni. Pandawa has Kembang Kacang at Gandik, but Pulanggeni not. The pamor called Beras Wutah. If I look closer on the iron and pamor, also deep tikel alis and another ricikan (features), this keris can be made from late Majapahit period.

.. and the wrangka, called gayaman Jogja style made from Timoho wooden with mendak meniran Jogjakarta. The hilt also Jogjakarta style. The pendok called Kemalo, more specific.. Black Kemalo from Silver. I suppose that all of the wrangka is old made. Nice wrangka.

but, could you please give a close up picture of the pesi/peksi (bottom of the gonjo) ? I think the pesi of this keris is repaired (Jawa = Srumbungan). So that look not appropriate for the keris from Majapahit keris period. bigger that usually.

Overall.. good keris and classy wrangka.

Warm regards,
Mans.

5th November 2005, 06:03 PM	#7
Mans Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Java Posts: 137	Hi dear all, Just need to give my opinion about Simatua keris, I think KC is right about old keris out of Indonesia and any other ancient artifact. .... back to the keris and wangka, The dapur (shape) of Simatua keris not Pandawa, but Pulanggeni. Pandawa has Kembang Kacang at Gandik, but Pulanggeni not. The pamor called Beras Wutah. If I look closer on the iron and pamor, also deep tikel alis and another ricikan (features), this keris can be made from late Majapahit period. .. and the wrangka, called gayaman Jogja style made from Timoho wooden with mendak meniran Jogjakarta. The hilt also Jogjakarta style. The pendok called Kemalo, more specific.. Black Kemalo from Silver. I suppose that all of the wrangka is old made. Nice wrangka. but, could you please give a close up picture of the pesi/peksi (bottom of the gonjo) ? I think the pesi of this keris is repaired (Jawa = Srumbungan). So that look not appropriate for the keris from Majapahit keris period. bigger that usually. Overall.. good keris and classy wrangka. Warm regards, Mans.