The first one, Spanish, could be the 1860 Light Cavalry sabre, for either officer or trooper, the officer blade being nickeled (chromed) and larger 860 m/m, instead of 835 m/m. for troopers. The grip for officers covered with 'ray' skin and the trooper's in basic leather ; therefore the date 1870 on the blade spine being the production date. But don't take this for granted; i am no expert, only an enthusiast, hapenning to have a small book on Spanish light armament.
The second one being a German 1840 Cavalry saber by W. WALSCHEID from Solingen; again an atempt to score.
These are basic specimens, worth a humble price, i would say.
If you are interested in starting to collect European stuff, this is a modest way ... which is no crime, anyhow. But the thing is that, contrary to Ethno (non Western) stuff,
age in European arms count a lot ... and these two qualify as 'modern'. This is why Europan collecting consumes a greater budget
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Having said that, i am not distant from Gav's hint: you like them, you buy them.
By the way, i find that screw inside the guard of the Toledo sabre a bit off topic; besides looking modern, i don't know what it is for.
Well, you may consider my incipient diagnosis only until someone more knowledeable pops in.