Ethnographic Arms & Armour - View Single Post - Unknown coat-of-arms dating to the 16th century

Jean-Marc S. · 20th March 2012, 08:42 PM

Hello Guys,

Thanks for your help in the identification of this coat-of-arms. The royal crown, together with the kingdom of jerusalem quarter suggests royal descendants of Frederick II (not Ferdinand II).

As mentioned by David M. Bertie (Curatorial Officer – Documentation & Conservation.
Role - Line manager for documentation and conservation staff; collections management; curator for Banff Museum. Collections specialism: family history ; ecclesiastical history , heraldry).

He wrote:

Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, married Yolante, the daughter of John, King of Jerusalem. Their grandson Conradin, Duke of Swabia, had no issue. Succeeding Dukes of Swabia may have considered that the right to bear the Jerusalem arms passed to them, along with anything else they inherited. This is simply a suggestion to explain the occurrence together of the Jerusalem arms and three lions. Swabia, Burgundy -- suggests an origin somewhere in the western Holy Roman Empire.

My suggestion regarding Swabia for the three lions arose from scouring Lauda & Maclagan. That was the only connection to Jerusalem that I could find in their book.

20th March 2012, 08:42 PM	#11
Jean-Marc S. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: France Posts: 104	Royal descendants of Frederick II ? Hello Guys, Thanks for your help in the identification of this coat-of-arms. The royal crown, together with the kingdom of jerusalem quarter suggests royal descendants of Frederick II (not Ferdinand II). As mentioned by David M. Bertie (Curatorial Officer – Documentation & Conservation. Role - Line manager for documentation and conservation staff; collections management; curator for Banff Museum. Collections specialism: family history ; ecclesiastical history , heraldry). He wrote: Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, married Yolante, the daughter of John, King of Jerusalem. Their grandson Conradin, Duke of Swabia, had no issue. Succeeding Dukes of Swabia may have considered that the right to bear the Jerusalem arms passed to them, along with anything else they inherited. This is simply a suggestion to explain the occurrence together of the Jerusalem arms and three lions. Swabia, Burgundy -- suggests an origin somewhere in the western Holy Roman Empire. My suggestion regarding Swabia for the three lions arose from scouring Lauda & Maclagan. That was the only connection to Jerusalem that I could find in their book.