[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Migueldiaz, That's great, a very nice addition to your collection. I'm not sure if 'throat piece' is the correct terminology/name for this section of the scabbard, or if it even has one, but if you by chance know what the correct name for this section is could you please post it? The only other scabbard that I have seen so far that is even similar is located here http://www.filhistory.com/2010/07/su...tenegre-1.html on one of your web pages. Would you also tell me what your thoughts are on the above bolo? Here is a link to the original thread on it. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=funston Thank you for your help.

thanks, robert.

i don't know the local name of the leather 'throat' or collar. but in the online hiligaynon 1934 dictionary (hiligaynon is one of the dialects in panay island, from where the swords are), we find this entry:

panílo, (Sp. pañuelo) Cloth, cloth-band, collar, neckcloth; the strip of cloth or leather used for fastening the sheath of a bolo to the hip. (cf. balióg; pányo)

thus, panilo (pronounced pah-NEH-lo) can refer to anything that wraps around something. for now perhaps, we can use panilo to refer to that leather 'throat' or collar. nacho or reichsritter can confirm (and for sure later, we'll have the opportunity again to double-check with local smiths).

talking about that online dictionary, here are the other terms:

binángon, The Philippine long knife carried in a scabbard on the hip by workmen. The scabbard or case is called "tagúb" (cf. bólo, pinútì, siántong, sandúkò, ginúnting, talibóng, kális, súndang, uták).

dága, (Sp. daga) Dagger, poniard, stiletto. (cf. íwà, súndang, pinútì).

espáda, (Sp. espada) Sword, sabre, falchion, scimitar, brand, rapier, side-arm. (cf. binángon, talibúng, sandúkò, ginúnting, kális).

garanás, Knife, especially one used for cutting meshes, repairing nets, etc. (cf. urutúp, galanás, súndang, kotsílyo, lansítas).

ginúnting, A kind of war-knife, large bolo. (cf. siántong, sandúkò, binángon, íwà).

íwà, Dagger; poniard, dirk, knife. (cf. dága, binángon, talibóng, sandúkò, ginúnting, kotsílyo, súndang, garanás, urutúp, lansétas).

kális, (Sp. cris) The Malayan dagger, creese or cris, a sword as used by the Moros.

kampílan, A large, long kind of sword; hanger, cutlass.

kotsílyo, (Sp. cochillo) Knife, table-knife. (cf. súndang).

lansétas, (Sp. lanceta) Lancet, fleam, a farrier's sharp knife used in phlebotomy; a pocket-knife.

pinútì, Knife, bolo, any cutting tool made of steel. (cf. putî).

sáble, (Sp. sable) Sabre, sword. (cf. súndang, binángon, talibóng, etc.).

sandúkò, A kind of long bolo with a curved point. (cf. ginúnting).

siántong, A kind of bolo, but straight and longer than the ordinary binángon and having the point slightly curved. (cf. sandúkò).

súndang, Knife, kitchen-knife, a small stiff knife, dagger, sword, table-knife. (cf. tulóslok—fork; irós—spoon; garanás, urutóp, lansítas, kotsílyo, binángon, íwa, etc.).

tagúb, Sheath, scabbard, case; to sheathe, put into a scabbard, provide or make a scabbard. Itagúb ang ímo espáda. Sheathe your sword. Tágbi (Tagubí) ang ímo binángon. Provide a scabbard for your bolo.

talibóng, A large, heavy bolo. (cf. sandúkò, siántong, binángon).

urutúp, (B) A knife, anything with a sharp edge for cutting, as a piece of sharp stone, bone, tin, wood, bamboo, etc. (cf. súndang, garanás; ótop).

uták, Knife, bolo. See binángon.

the downloadable version of the dictionary is here. it's better to have the download version, as one can search there using english terms.

more field research needs to be done to match the blade shapes, vis-a-vis the terms above. it will also be noted that tenegre (tinigre) is not an entry in the dictionary. but for a fact, the term is being used in panay. again more research is needed on the origin of that word.

another noteworthy local linguistic variation is the definition of sundang in panay. elsewhere (northern philippines [luzon] and south. phils. [mindanao]), a sundang is a large blade. a kris in mindanao for instance is also called a sundang. but in panay, a sundang is a mere kitchen knife!