Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
12th June 2007, 02:17 PM
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Replies: 29
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Tatyana--
A very nice blade with what appears...
Tatyana--
A very nice blade with what appears to be the original handle fittings and wrap. Or, at least, they have a good amount of age. I usually associate this style of wrap to the early-to-mid...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
25th May 2007, 02:51 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 13,046
I agree, Rick...the vast difference in...
I agree, Rick...the vast difference in workmanship leads me to think that the white metal fittings were added later. In fact, I find it odd that all of the scabbard fittings are pressed up against...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
23rd May 2007, 10:43 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 13,046
This piece is really fascinating.
Speaking...
This piece is really fascinating.
Speaking as someone who has stared at Vietnamese motifs for way too long, I can say that this does NOT look Vietnamese to me. True, the foliage and curly-cues...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
14th April 2007, 03:43 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 9,037
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
22nd March 2007, 01:02 AM
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Replies: 8
Views: 12,955
Looks to me like the "speckled pattern" might...
Looks to me like the "speckled pattern" might just be surface marring. Here and there, I can see some vaguely parallel lines that might be a layered pattern weld (look at the uppermost photo). In...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
12th March 2007, 06:04 PM
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Replies: 6
Views: 8,372
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
3rd February 2007, 09:43 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 10,669
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
8th January 2007, 06:03 AM
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Replies: 5
Views: 8,594
Thanks for the information.
Sorry for...
Thanks for the information.
Sorry for bumping this to the top, but I'm still wondering if anyone out there can help me identify the blade. Does anyone know if this might be a French saber pattern?
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
31st December 2006, 07:00 AM
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Replies: 5
Views: 8,594
European saber with Vietnamese mounts
I can use some opinions on a new purchase I made last week. I believe it is a European blade and scabbard that has been dressed up in Vietnamese mounts (I apologize for using the dealer’s photos…I...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
21st October 2006, 06:18 PM
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Replies: 29
Views: 28,342
I also wanted to mention that the Koreans used...
I also wanted to mention that the Koreans used similar shields. I'm posting drawings from the recent translation of the Muye Dobo Tongji, the Korean military manual originally commissioned in 1790...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
19th October 2006, 11:33 PM
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Replies: 29
Views: 28,342
Hello Zelmoxis,
You sound very certain that...
Hello Zelmoxis,
You sound very certain that this is Vietnamese and not Chinese. Do you know how to tell the two apart? Are you using a source other than the Barbier-Mueller book or the Huard and...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
16th October 2006, 06:41 PM
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Replies: 29
Views: 28,342
I'm of the opinion that this shield is likely...
I'm of the opinion that this shield is likely Chinese. I've seen maybe a dozen Chinese shields over the years, and this one fits the general size, shape, composition, and weaving. The handles are a...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
6th October 2006, 06:51 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
Mark--
Thank you for your kind words. I...
Mark--
Thank you for your kind words. I very much enjoy the shield as well, and it will take a place of honor in my collection (possibly as a background to my rack of kiem).
Thank you for the...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
6th October 2006, 06:33 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
Vandoo--
Thanks for the image. There is a...
Vandoo--
Thanks for the image. There is a shield with some similarities on page 135 of the Barbier-Mueller book. The author attributes it to the Kaseng people of Laos.
Something to keep in...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
4th October 2006, 09:28 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
This is the best image I have of a shield from...
This is the best image I have of a shield from Vietnamese artwork. It's from the book, TRANH CO VIET NAM (ANCIENT AND TRADITIONAL PAINTINGS OF VIETNAM), pages 68-69. I expanded the appropriate...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
4th October 2006, 09:16 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
4th October 2006, 09:15 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
Hello Vandoo,
The black-lacquered one is...
Hello Vandoo,
The black-lacquered one is actually Laotian, according to the Barbier-Mueller book (the full title is, SHIELDS: AFRICA, SOUTHEAST ASIA AND OCEANIA FROM THE COLLECTIONS OF THE...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
4th October 2006, 03:49 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 11,848
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
4th October 2006, 02:06 AM
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Replies: 14
Views: 31,154
Vietnamese Shield
I purchased this a few months ago, and I wanted to get the opinions of the forum.
Dimensions are 50 inches tall by 16 inches wide. It is composed entirely of lacquered wood with iron or steel...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
21st May 2006, 09:14 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 8,693
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
21st May 2006, 09:11 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 8,693
Now, THESE images are of a double kiem (song...
Now, THESE images are of a double kiem (song kiem) from the Metropolitan Museum of Art (I took the photos myself). Again, double fullers, but they are so pronounced as to almost completely take up...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
21st May 2006, 09:05 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 8,693
Hello Yannis,
Some images might help.
...
Hello Yannis,
Some images might help.
The first is a piece from my collection. It dates from the late 19th to early 20th century. Note the fairly wide double fullers (which is very common for...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
21st May 2006, 05:40 PM
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Replies: 9
Views: 8,693
It's been a while since I've seen a Vietnamese...
It's been a while since I've seen a Vietnamese kiem posted here (I think somebody did several years ago). As many forumites know, this is a subject very near and dear to my heart. I own a handful...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
18th April 2006, 02:17 PM
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Replies: 19
Views: 21,996
Copper-bladed kiem
Re: Vietnamese parade swords
I have come across a few kiem that had copper blades. They were all very late and very clearly not meant for combat. Whereas steel-bladed kiem can be considered...
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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
17th August 2005, 03:18 PM
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Replies: 44
Views: 50,513
Just thought I'd chime in on Chinese...
Just thought I'd chime in on Chinese double-weapons.
There is nothing in the military manuals of the Ming or Qing Dynasties to support double weapons. This is corroborated by period artwork. I...
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