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BrettDoubleU 18th July 2005 06:16 AM

Curious Knife. For Tourists or real? TIA!
 
Thank you in advance for your help. I am a novice at a dead end. From where does this knife come? I appreciate your input!

Brett
:confused:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brett....6b.jpg&.src=ph http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brett....91.jpg&.src=ph

ingelred 18th July 2005 07:52 AM

hello,

I am deninitely no expert in this kind of weapon but I would say that this is a kudi or kudijang from Java.
You may take a look here:

http://www.valiantco.com/

and here:

http://old.blades.free.fr/

Klick on the spears picture and You will see an old one.
And no, I don't think that this is a tourist piece.
But please ask the experts.

Best regards, Helge

rahman 18th July 2005 08:41 AM

It looks like a kujang, all right -- but in a rencong dress.

interesting mix!

Alam Shah 18th July 2005 10:52 AM

Examples...
 
Rahman is right.
See here for example of a kujang and a rencong...;)
(Click on the underlined text to bring to the examples.)

nechesh 18th July 2005 11:35 AM

That is strange! :confused:
As Rahman points out, looks like a kujang in rencong dress, which means that the sheath and hilt of this piece are from a completely different, though geographically related blade form. Does the blade sit well in the sheath? Does it appear to have been made for this blade?

Alam Shah 18th July 2005 12:58 PM

nechesh,

It seems like the blade had been modifed to fit the sheath.
See picture 2, the part near the hilt, seems to be filed.

Kujang comes mostly from Sunda, West Java.
Rencong comes from Sumatra, Aceh, Gayo and Alas.
For this example, from the meucangge 'curved hilt', it is from Aceh, Indonesia. ;)

Henk 18th July 2005 06:57 PM

It is a tombak dapur kudi, mounted as a rencong. I own a similar tombak dressed as a sumatran keris, made for the tombak.

BrettDoubleU 18th July 2005 07:48 PM

Thank you All
 
I truly appreciate your kind responses and information. It is all helpful. It raises some questions for me but I will research these.
Thanks again,

Brett :D


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