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Atlantia 20th June 2008 02:35 PM

Help needed to identify ethnic blade
 
Hi everyone, been lurking for a while now, mostly because its taken an age to sort out registration (I think all BBs hate AOL users).
Anyway, here now with a big HI to all of you... and my first post is going to be a plea for help identifying a blade:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...Bowl/002-5.jpg

Lew 20th June 2008 09:36 PM

Welcome Atlantia to the forum :)

Your blade could Nepalese in origin or Indian but I can't be sure. Can you take a closer pic of the decorations on the blade it may help.

Lew

Atlantia 20th June 2008 10:52 PM

Hi Lew,
Thanks for having a look for me.
The blade is heavy like a Kukri, with small inset pieces of brass in the spine and simp[le incised decoration on the blade. Its about 600g and has hammer strike marks on the spine so has been used as a tool at some stage.
I havent cleaned it up or anything yet, it's as I bought it about 5 years ago.
Any ideas appreciated. I thought it was Indian and was going to stick a Tulwar hilt on it.

Thanks
Gene

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...Bowl/005-6.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...Bowl/006-7.jpg

Lew 21st June 2008 02:11 AM

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Gene

Brass inserts very interesting? I am leaning now towards Assam and Burma ot even Thai? I have seen those brass inlays in some older Dhas before. It may be some form of dha the tang is straight or slightly upward in angle similar to the dha pictured. Mark what do you think?

Lew

kronckew 21st June 2008 06:32 AM

kinda reminds me of this style thai utility knife
http://lh5.google.com/image/primitiv...0/IMG_7876.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/image/primitiv...5CIMG_8572.JPG

Atlantia 21st June 2008 01:31 PM

Wow thanks guys! :-)

Lew,
I've been so hung up on the bolo blade shape that I'd never noticed how 'dha' like the back end of the blade was.
I've had a few Dha's over the years, but never seen one with the handle off.

kronckew, do you know what those knives are called? It certainly looks like its somewhere between one of them and a dha....

here's the back end compared with Lew's brass inserts.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...wl/33_1_b1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...Bowl/001-7.jpg

kronckew 21st June 2008 02:38 PM

as far as i know, they are just kind of a generic kitchen/utility knife common in thailand. here are some more being used as throwing knives, meed eneb? meed maw or mawr
http://www.knifethrowing.info/images...ife_nam26b.jpg
and here is a decorated temple version with 'magic' powers,
http://www.iconsultancyservices.com/...mitmor_m02.jpg
the site is HERE <-linky, called a meed mor. (herb knife? - bit big for that tho) meed=knife, saw another one for sale on ebay as a meed mong, another as a thai kukri ;)

see also post 14 HERE

Tim Simmons 21st June 2008 04:14 PM

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Here is a more recent example with interesting scabbard decoration. Teak, aluminium amd epoxy type resin? handle.

Atlantia 21st June 2008 04:28 PM

This is great!
I can make a handle like that fairly easily.
Notice the similarities in decoration style with the new one Tim?

I like the 'temple' one kronckew. I think the blade I have has considerable age.
The site you link to talks about larger ones! Hmmm, interesting ;-)
Certainly worth carving a nice handle for I'd say!!
Hopefully the blade will clean up nicely.

Andrew 21st June 2008 11:41 PM

I agree: Thai. Very interesting blade. Where did you come by this, Atlantia? Any provenance?

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)

Atlantia 22nd June 2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew
I agree: Thai. Very interesting blade. Where did you come by this, Atlantia? Any provenance?

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


Hi Andrew,
Thanks :-)

I bought it at a car boot sale about 5 years ago from a trader who I see regularly who sells stuff that looks like its come out of derelict barns and sheds. Always dirty, always old rusty stuff, sometimes architectural, doors, locks, normally bigger stuff. Sometimes he has boxes of bits and this was just in amongst some bits he had once.
Didn't cost much, I wouldn't have paid more than about £5 for it.

I've had some great car boot sale finds over the years!

Like this Pesh-Kabz:
£23.00
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...Bowl/016-2.jpg

Jim McDougall 24th June 2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons
Here is a more recent example with interesting scabbard decoration.


82nd Airborne, hoooahhh!

Lew 24th June 2008 06:40 PM

Another mystery solved thanks to the guys at Vikingsword CSI ;) :D :cool:



Lew


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