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Yannis 1st March 2005 06:11 PM

Two men and an eagle
 
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Can someone recognize these gentlemen or guess what they are doing on a typical koummya blade? A mark of quality or something more interesting?

How about this eagle that appeared to be an old fingerprint before etching?

I enjoy etching old blades :D

Andrew 1st March 2005 06:35 PM

Interesting! Could you show us photos of the entire weapon?

The eagle looks American or, perhaps Mexican. Is there anything grasped in its talons?

Yannis 1st March 2005 07:37 PM

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Andrew

Nothing in its talons. The eagle is ready to catch something. Maybe he does it in the next blade. :rolleyes:

Nothing special about the weapon. An old Moroccan koummya 45cm long, with a very good blade 25cm. It was rusty when I got it. Scabbard and hilt made with brass and silver.

I wonder why someone etched all these.

wolviex 1st March 2005 09:12 PM

Marks and Engels!!! :D

Sorry, just joking - a little memento of the history of my country.

Rivkin 2nd March 2005 02:30 AM

The guy looks to me as Napoleon the Third. The eagle reminds me of something, but I can't quite remember...

Yannis 2nd March 2005 09:45 AM

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Rirvin, bravo!
The left face looks like Napoleon III, indeed. But the nose of the man in the right is not so "french" :)

Also Moroco was occupied by France and Spain in 1902. Napoleon III had died in 1873. :confused:

tom hyle 2nd March 2005 01:21 PM

vinegar brought these pictures up? I ask for a practical reason; I have an old Persian(?) spear with faint old etching, about 50% visible on one side, but only about 5% on the other. The surfaces are fairly smooth and nice; not very seriously rusted; just worn/polished off over the years, I guess.
It looks like European frisket etching? The blade does look European, too, but remember where Mooroco is; I've found Euroisms in Moorish work, and it's not surprising. This is somewhat similar to a khoumiya I have; anyone have comment on age/tribe/region?

Rather 2nd March 2005 02:58 PM

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If the eagle is Mexican, the guy might be Ferdinand Maximilian, Emperor of Mexico (1832 - 1867) ... they all looked a litel bit alike in those days....


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