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Sajen 2nd June 2025 07:52 PM

Where does this sheath come from?
 
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I won a lot with three keris at a German auction. One of them is this one in the picture. Where is this scabbard style from?

Thank you for your thoughts! ;)

A. G. Maisey 2nd June 2025 11:06 PM

The style accords with Surakarta Ladrangan Capu, but there are variations to the interpretation that could be due to either original carving or to repair & refinishing of a damaged section. If the variations are the product of original carving it most probably indicates production in a place that was out of the mainstream influence of Surakarta. The variation I'm referring to is the way in which the janggut section of the wrongko has been foreshortened.

Sajen 2nd June 2025 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 297700)
The style accords with Surakarta Ladrangan Capu, but there are variations to the interpretation that could be due to either original carving or to repair & refinishing of a damaged section. If the variations are the product of original carving it most probably indicates production in a place that was out of the mainstream influence of Surakarta.

Thank you Alan! When I think of Landrangan Capu I have in mind a scabbard style like the one Jean has shown once, see the attached first picture in comparison to the one in question. But like you said, it could be variation.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey 2nd June 2025 11:59 PM

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A. G. Maisey 3rd June 2025 12:07 AM

I'm more inclined to think it is a repair, maybe the front of the wrongko was a bit marked/scuffed/indented and somebody outside the society or culture took to it with a sharp knife & some cabinet paper.

If we look very carefully at the top left of the pendok we can see that there is not a flowing line along the length of the janggut section, it sort of runs a bit flat approaching the pendok, then it begins to curve. This shaping is not the work of a bonafide m'ranggi or tukang wrongko.

I am inclined to believe that somebody with very limited understanding decided that the wrongko needed a facelift, so he gave it one that pleased himself.

Sajen 3rd June 2025 08:01 AM

Thank you again Alan! :) I don't have it in my hands yet but I will post pictures when I have received it.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey 3rd June 2025 09:20 AM

I look forward to that.

Sajen 3rd June 2025 09:52 AM

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I look forward to that.

I bought the lot for the parts, the hilt with mendak and selut, the gandar with the fitting pendok with tortoise shell inlay, the interesting looking blade, the nice Malay sheath, the Madura janggelan hilt, all parts alone worth the paid price. ;)

HughChen 3rd June 2025 04:47 PM

A similar one
 
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A similar one from my collection

Sajen 3rd June 2025 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HughChen (Post 297715)
A similar one from my collection

Hello Hugh,

Not really, have a look again! ;)

Regards,
Detlef


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