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gp 14th June 2022 09:10 PM

from where...?
 
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This carte de visite / CdV is from around 1860 - 1880
and originates from the Ottoman Empire.

unfortunately the name of the photographer and city where it was taken is neither printed on the front nor backside...

Does anyone on the forum knows where this might come from ? Country, people or group?
Do you recognize the weapons ?

Thnx

ariel 14th June 2022 09:57 PM

Zeibek. Western Anatolia, mostly around Smirna/Izmir.
Google Zeibek yataghan or search for it on the Forum. The “ears” are specific.

gp 14th June 2022 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel (Post 272722)
Zeibek. Western Anatolia, mostly around Smirna/Izmir.
Google Zeibek yataghan or search for it on the Forum. The “ears” are specific.

much obliged, most highly appreciated !

Not only the yataghan but also the high" fez like hat with the long "tail" is clearly to be seen:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17790

ariel 14th June 2022 11:21 PM

… as well as shorts and leggings…:-)

Rick 14th June 2022 11:48 PM

What is contained in the striped bag hanging from his belt? I have seen this before worn by other armed men from this area.

ariel 15th June 2022 04:29 AM

A bottle of Raki?:-)

Edster 15th June 2022 01:15 PM

Asphidity bag for medicines or eating?

Rick 15th June 2022 06:39 PM

Tongue in cheek ?
 
I understand that's pretty stinky stuff.
That's a lot of Asafetida for one man to carry around, Ed. :eek:

Edster 15th June 2022 07:30 PM

Rick,

Since this isn't a one-off item, but as you say ethnically common, it must have some cultural significance and not likely a bag to carry extra socks. What could/would be carried to produce that shape? First aid, natural roots & leaves for medicines, personal items, magic items? We need to dive deeper into their culture.

Best,
Ed


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