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phil.reid 31st July 2019 01:37 AM

cabasset helmet , what do people think???
 
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cabasset helmet , any ideas ? looks to be made from one piece of steel , concerned that it does have any of the rosettes and may not be period piece as its in good aged condition but maybe too good, any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated , no back history, just handed from buyer to buyer
cheers
Phil

David R 31st July 2019 01:03 PM

It looks to be at the better end of munitions quality. What does it weigh? Does it fit a real head?

corrado26 31st July 2019 01:20 PM

Looking at the not too exakt way the rim is made I think it is a historism piece.
corrado26

fernando 31st July 2019 01:30 PM

Yet it looks good to me :o .
The rosettes holes look genuine.
Besides info on its weight, can you show us more pictures ... like its interior and a wider section of the rim ?
And, as asked by David, does it fit your head ? Not that this his is final evidence; it could be for a younger or smaller man ...


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phil.reid 1st August 2019 01:57 AM

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morning gents
(0843 here in Aus)
yes fits my 56-58 head, scales are wonky but saying 1.4kg
more photo below, was it underneath of rim you were after , any idea on region/dating?

fernando 1st August 2019 11:04 AM

I think corrado was referring to the 'irregular' rim folding but this, only for itself, would not be an issue ... i guess :o .
The weight you give is a regular one for these things.
If this were a genuine 'pear stalk' cabasset, would date from around 1600's, and could come from Spain, Italy or Britain.
A genuine example was discussed HERE.

David R 1st August 2019 10:12 PM

I think that given the size and weight that its a real one. Plain, simple and not at all fancy, just the sort that comes out of the barrel and onto the soldier.

Philip 2nd August 2019 05:58 AM

The workmanship, and the appearance of the metal surface on the underside, look right to me as well. Outside appears to have been rather strenuously cleaned sometime in the past, but that applies to a lot of old armor. (at least it hasn't been "enhanced" with decoration applied by someone in the trade, long after the fact)

phil.reid 5th August 2019 01:46 AM

Thanks Gents ,
Feel alot more comfortable with this piece now
cheers
Phil

fernando 5th August 2019 10:27 AM

Your'e welcome Phil... and come again :cool: .


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