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A.alnakkas 10th September 2012 04:29 PM

Interesting Mini Museum
 
This little museum I dont know where it is exactly but the old gentleman says: "it belongs to Al Omran Tribe" but its nice and displays various antiques and some old rifles.

Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tKL...eature=related

Dom 10th September 2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas
This little museum I dont know where it is exactly but the old gentleman says: "it belongs to Al Omran Tribe"

Hi my Bro.
about Al-Omran Tribe, is located in KSA in the province of
- Al-Ahsa (Arabic: الأحساء‎ al-Aḥsāʾ, locally pronounced al-Ḥasāʾ) is the largest governorate in Saudi Arabia's Eastern Province, named after the Al-Ahsa oasis.

Al-Omran (also spelled Al-Umran), in Arabic العمران, has an area of more than 6 kmē and a population of more than 49,000 (in 1997).
It consists of about 17 villages, including Al-Hutah, Al-Rumailah, North Al-Omran, South Al-Omran, Ghomsi, Al-Ulayyah, Abu Al-Hasa,
Abu Thur, Al-Sayayrah, Al-Suwydrah, Al-Aramyah, Fariq Al-Raml, Wasit, Al- Shuwaikiah, Al-Sabaykh and Al-Nakheel.

at least, it may be a clue ? :p
I love these little personal and ethnographic museums, bringing together the objects of every day life
and in the characters who collect all these wonders are often extraordinary and fascinating people
thanks to have share with us

all the best

ā +

Dom

A.alnakkas 10th September 2012 07:26 PM

Salam Dom!

Good work man. I feel alittle ashamed as someone who actually studied Arabian tribes hehe. Their accent seemed closer to jidawi accent and their clothes looks closer to Omani :p

Lotfy

kahnjar1 10th September 2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas
Salam Dom!

Good work man. I feel alittle ashamed as someone who actually studied Arabian tribes hehe. Their accent seemed closer to jidawi accent and their clothes looks closer to Omani :p

Lotfy

Al Ahsa is located in EASTERN KSA near the modern day Omani border so it follows that the garb is similar. Here is a Khanjar perported to be from the Al Ahsa region, and this also bears similarities with the Omani Khanjar.
Stu

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 15th September 2012 07:44 AM

Salaams All ~ Excellent regional museum tape. According to wiki encyclopedia ~Al-Ahsa (Arabic: الأحساء‎ al-Aḥsāʾ, locally pronounced al-Ḥasāʾ) is the largest governorate in Saudi Arabia's Eastern Province, named after the Al-Ahsa oasis. The name Al-Ahsa is also given to the biggest city in the governorate, Hofuf. In classic Arabic, Ahsa means the sound of water underground. It has one of the largest oases in the world with Date Palms of the best in the world, the oasis is located about 60 km inland from the Persian Gulf. All urban areas are located in the traditional oasis of Al-Hasa. In addition to the oasis, the county also includes the giant Empty Quarter desert, making it the largest governorate in Saudi Arabia in terms of area. The Empty Quarter has the world's largest oil fields and connects Saudi Arabia to Qatar, the UAE, and Oman. The Governorate's population is over 908,366 (2005 estimate).[1] Though the population is mixed between Sunnis and Shi'ites, it contains one of the largest concentrations of Twelvers (اثنا عشرية) Shi'ite Muslims in the predominantly Sunni Muslim country. In the past, Al-Ahsa belonged to the historical region known as Bahrain, along with Qatif and the present-day Bahrain islands.
One campus of a major Saudi university, King Faisal University, founded in 1975, is located in Al-Ahsa with the faculties of agriculture, veterinary medicine and animal resources, with the other faculties in Dammam. The Hofuf campus also has facilities where Saudi women can study medicine, dentistry and home economics. A big branch of Arab Open University which is a private university is also located in Al-Ahsa.

It's still a great distance from Oman (same haul as Muscat to Karachi) but I think is more closely related architecturally (regarding ancient buildings) to Bahrain though of course similar to nearby Arab countries. The daggers, I'm still checking, as the Jizzan in the far south wedged against the Yemen and the Red Sea is where the similar 7 ringers (to the Omani 7 ringers) appear to be favourite.

It wouldn't actually surprise me to find a similar dagger construction since Al Ahsa was a main stopping and trading Oasis for the overland camel trains from all over the region including Oman. I would however like to see that proved since it could be that people get confused with Abha in the south and Ahsa in the east. In addition I have searched through hundreds of web pages and photographs but nothing has turned up for al Hasa. In fact hardly a single dagger of any description is shown on any web page of that region.

There is a dagger at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13305 by Dom, however, although it may have been purchased there I wonder if it is actually from al hasa ?

Currently, however, the place which has been noted for 7 ringer Omani similar style is Habaabi in The Jazzan. It gives its name to that form. Habaabi; Its a city.
see http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesfred/5780340299 or refer to Forum library on my thread The Omani Khanjar.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 17th September 2012 08:07 PM

ID CRACKED FINALLY ON THIS KHANJAR.
 
Salaams all ~ I have followed up with many attempts to unearth the situation in Al Hasa. It would fit very nicely, I have to say, because of the old camel trade route from Oman to this region and through the shipping trade from Oman to Bahrain thence to Al Hasa. There are, however, no clues to 7 ringers being used there. Nor were there any daggers on the Video at #1.

The southern region sometimes called Fifa or Jazzan which used to be in The Yemen but is now part of KSA is the identified area for this type of dagger. The city that it takes its name from in that region is Habaabi. I believe the mix up is because of the similarity of one city down there being called Al ABHA perhaps confusing it with Al HASA (OR AL AHSA).

I therefor suggested that the dagger shown is in fact an Habaabi...but..

What we are looking at is neither but a Sharqiyah item better known as The Muscat Khanjar. Certainly puzzled me for a while this one !! The hilt gives the game away. T shaped hilt on a 7 ringer body. The Muscat Khanjar.

The Omani Khanjar thread refers. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14878 see # 17 and the Ruth Hawley book Omani Silver from whence it came at # 15... and which I just happened to have open on the right page as I was looking at the dagger on this thread when the penny dropped ! I have the Muscat Khanjar down as a rare style these days.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi


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