Bolo Or Tenegre???
 

Hello everyone, This arrived today with gold paint all over the steel collar on the hilt and even some on the horn part. Here are a couple of pictures of when it arrived with the paint and a couple more after a little cleaning. Sorry about the quality of mine as I had to take them inside with a flash. My main questions are, what is the correct name for this and where is it from??? My guess would be the Visayan but where exactly. All help will be greatly appreciated.

Robert

Well Visayans is correct. Might be Iloilo, but not sure. Some Visayans would call it a binagon, but if from Iloilo, then may be different. I'll wait for others to chime in (please?).

Agreed. Definitely Ilo Ilo. Left-hander, too. Don't see those everyday. Far from rare, but still very very nice to see :D

I think it's called a binangon, and looks like it's from Panay Island as said. But let's see what the Ilonggos have to say.

There's a Visayan sword that just finished on eBay (c/o 'artotec') having a similar hilt (pics attached).

There's also a Lumad sword posted a long time ago which hilt is similar.

This Lumad sword's blade looks like a Visayan ginunting, however. Thus perhaps the sword originated from Panay, and was just dressed up later by the Lumad who got it.

In summary, the unusual hilt (i.e., with bulging 'eyes' to its left and right) looks like it's really Visayan.

Thank you all for your help so far in trying to identify where this is from and what it is called. The reason I thinking tenegre was more because of the shape of the blade than anything else.
Here is another that hasn't arrived yet that has a hilt that is similar in style but not exactly the same. The pictures are from the auction. At one time the scabbard on this one was covered in thin pieces of horn. Too bad it is now in such poor condition.:( The tip looks to be worn away instead of being broken.

Robert

Was watching this one as well. Definitely a Tenegre
I've seen this similar handle on a few different items. It's quite easy to make (if that means anything).

Hello Nirghosa and thank you not only for your reply but also for not bidding.:D Now not trying to sound too dense, to which item are you referring the first or second ?:confused:

Robert

Sorry :D , I was referring to the first one.

The second one looks like a binangon to me as well :)

Hello Robert,

I like your binagon very much, it's a shame that it missing it's sheath. Here you can see my binagon: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11550

Best regards,

Detlef

One of mine. Cant remember if I bought it from a member here or somewhere else online. :confused:

Detlef. Thank you very much for your kind words and for the link to your wonderful binangon. Yes it is a shame that the scabbard is missing on mine but one of these days if I cannot find an original one that it will fit properly I will carve one myself. Unfortunately I have many projects ahead of it.:(

Dimasalang, I thank you also for the pictures of your wonderful binagon. If you would, could you post a picture that shows the complete scabbard of yours? The one that you have (except for the hilt being of wood) looks so much like mine that I believe a scabbard in the same style as yours might also be appropriate for mine. What are your thoughts on this?

Again my thanks to everyone for their help.

Robert

Hi Robert,
My first PI piece was a bolo like yours that I found at a yard sale. It's the 2nd piece from the top in the photo. In my first post here on the old forum, I was told it was from Iloilo on Panay, in the Visayas. The knob hilt with the long ferrule seems to be common in that area. It's still one of my favorite types of bolo.

Steve

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ne_800x600.jpg

Sure!

Mine looks very similar to this one as well.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...9&postcount=10

The blade itself is not wide but I would say thin...and makes up for it in thickness. I actually love how thin it is...it actually feels somewhat similar to a heavy stick...something that modern eskrimadors would feel familiar with. The big knobs on both sides of the handle actually do help. I actually thought it was a pinuti. I don't know anymore...Im just as lost as I was when I first started. :confused: More research needs to be done on these types of swords.

Steve, Great pieces. So this is the infamous piece that got it all started for you.:D Very nice. Thank you for posting the picture.

Dimasalang, Thank you for posting the picture and for the link. I hope that some day I will be able to find one of these long skinny pinuti/tenegre ???

Thank you all again for your help.

Robert

Here are a couple of pictures of the second binangon after a "believe it or not" very light cleaning. The hilt has been polished by years of use to this smooth finish that was brought out by only a little soap and water and a coat of ren wax polished with a soft cloth.