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chregu 20th December 2010 06:07 PM

Mongolian heavy knife?
 
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Hi
Can anyone define more precisely the origin of this knife?
after I suspect it comes from Mongolia.
grüsse Chregu

dennee 20th December 2010 06:45 PM

It looks like a Bhutanese knife. The shape of both the blade and the waisted hilt are characteristic, as are the construction and tripatite covering of the sheath. The gadrooned brass fittings ("khaser") are typical on Bhutanese edged weapons that do not use a higher-grade metal. Sheet brass is common on knives and swords that are lower grade but not solely utility examples.

kronckew 20th December 2010 07:56 PM

definitley a bhutanese 'dossum' or 'doo zum', as noted, the faceted grip shape is a dead giveaway. yours has more of a 'sword' tip to it (swords are 'patang') and thus could be a short 'patang'. they also make these in eastern tibet, near the bhutan border - styles do blurr there a bit, but even the tibetan ones are 'bhutanese style'.

i've one, a bit more dressy:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...100112_DCE.jpg

yours is a bit more utilitarian, i like it. many older ones are made from hairpin laminated steel.

here's a photo of the current king wearing a slightly larger (and much more expensive than ours) one. note he wears it on the right side, the negative is not flipped. it's a rank thing apparently.
http://beacononline.files.wordpress....utan-king1.jpg

another link to another forum where these were discussed. the original poster is a well educated bhutanese...LINKY
best bits are on page 3. ;) the other 2 pages are also worth reading.

Sajen 20th December 2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chregu
Hi
Can anyone define more precisely the origin of this knife?
after I suspect it comes from Mongolia.
grüsse Chregu

Hi Chregu,

is the grip from wood or bone? Like the others, it's from Bhutan. Nice old one. Try to etch the blade, there is maybe a lamination.:)

Grüsse,

Detlef

chregu 21st December 2010 10:39 AM

Hi
Thanks for the information. I was so totally wrong!
have more knives from this region to determine
if you lust habt.smile.
the violation is clear wood, the forged blade has traces
processing. The blade measures 29cm wide 3.5 cm thick 8mm
Wedge-shaped.
gruss Chregu


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