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Matchlock 15th November 2010 08:06 PM

A Fine ca. 1460 South German Haquebut Retaining Its Working Time Painted Stock
 
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Preserved in the Deutsches Historisches Museum Berlin.

Barrel wrought iron, ca. 1460, hexagonal, touchhole on top edge, remnants of original minium (red lead) paint, socket for tiller stock switching edges; length 89 cm, cal. 24 mm.

Tiller stock of down curved, relatively modern form, a ca. 1500 working addition, painted black and with white owner's Gothic minuscule initial h and a cross.

Color photos copyrighted by the author, 1988.

Best,
Michael

fernando 17th November 2010 02:39 PM

What a Superb haquebut :cool:
If i were a richman :shrug:
... i'd buy the Berlin Museum ... with such contents ... and staff, to ensure the painter :eek:
... not excluding the stock maker; quite an advanced artist, for his time.

Spiridonov 17th November 2010 03:41 PM

Michael, it is so beautiful barrel that i will try to calculate proportions and made a 3d model. Especially the most important fact that it has original paint.

Matchlock 17th November 2010 06:54 PM

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Hi Alexender,

I knew you'd like it right away. :)

Attached please find two very similar but slightly 'younger' Nuremberg haquebut barrel of ca. 1470-80, (because the touchhole has moved a bit more to the right), also hexagonal, with tiller sockets, and retaining much of its original minium paint.

The first is preserved in the Bavarian Army Museum Ingolstadt, and the only date I have is the overall length: 86 cm, inv.no. W363.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock 17th November 2010 07:09 PM

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Almost the pair to the foregoing piece, preserved in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nuremberg.
Length ca. 80-85 cm, inv.no. W 497.

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fernando 17th November 2010 07:18 PM

Fascinating.
Looks like the paint is rather thick. I can't beleive that, at such period, they already used a primer before the final layer.

Spiridonov 17th November 2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando
Fascinating.
Looks like the paint is rather thick. I can't beleive that, at such period, they already used a primer before the final layer.

Chennino Chennini mentioned a primer before the final layer in 14 century.

Matchlock 17th November 2010 07:59 PM

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Hi 'Nando,

This is indeed a very thick paint of minium. Though it was not primarily used as a rust inhibitor, it was the final layer, apart from a later black coat of paint that was sometimes applied in arsenals in centuries to follow.

As I have tried to point out several times, red and green were the basic colors of the Gothic period, used for stone as well as for iron and wood. It actually was a very colorful period.

I attach two photos of the interior and the ceiling of the cathedral of Brixen, The South Tyrol, as well as a display of arquebuses in a Maximilian armory, ca. 1507, in order to convey the prevailing impact of red and green in Gothic everyday life.

Best,
Michl

Spiridonov 17th November 2010 09:22 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=64974&stc=1
The length of these barrel is 894 mm, Dm. is 65mm, calibre is 23 mm, Haken length is 90 mm. I saw these beautiful barrel this summer in Nernberg.

Matchlock 17th November 2010 09:43 PM

Thank you, Alexender,

I knew you saw it - after seeing my collection ... :cool: :eek:

Best and good night,
Michael

Matchlock 20th November 2010 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando
What a Superb haquebut :cool:
If i were a richman :shrug:
... i'd buy the Berlin Museum ... with such contents ... and staff, to ensure the painter :eek:


'Nando, my dear friend,

Had you been in the Berlin museum (Altes Zeughaus) and its reserve collection, I'm quite sure, as a freak of early cannon, you would at least think twice about buying their whole ensemble ...

Good night (or rather good morning)
from your dead tired Bavarian friend
Michl

P.S. Could you please share some good images of that extremely rare 14th/early 15th c. lime stone cannon ball I was informed by the highest authority :D that you were lucky enough to acquire these days - as soon as you received it, of course? :cool: :eek:

fernando 20th November 2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock
... Could you please share some good images of that extremely rare 14th/early 15th c. lime stone cannon ball I was informed by the highest authority :D that you were lucky enough to acquire these days - as soon as you received it, of course? :cool: :eek:

Sure thing, Herr Trömner ;)
You can bet on that :)

Matchlock 20th November 2010 07:28 PM

We're looking for to see it!

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