Translation anyone?
 

Hello gentlemen,

Need someone's support in translating the words on a small jordani shibriya blade. Tried to do my best while taking pictures. Next month I'm enrolling to an arabic course.

Manythanks in advance!

http://i069.radikal.ru/1004/15/b5b354bda3bc.jpg

http://s06.radikal.ru/i179/1004/b2/3a7da9d3af69.jpg

http://i061.radikal.ru/1004/c4/9b6d5222977e.jpg

http://i015.radikal.ru/1004/5a/df7780801f13.jpg

http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1004/09/224c5d2e6668.jpg

Hi "Devadatta"
... just a joke ;) ... before an Arabic course, may be you might see for a photographic course :D

but as you confess the average quality, you are partly forgiven,
and tomorow we'll see if we may translate something

next time, thanks for choise the "focus" fonction,
and to try to have some contraste in playing with lights
when you are taking details ;)

all the best

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Dom

Dom, is there any way we can arrange to send flowers to your Wife ? ;) :D

Bless you both . :)


Rick

Thanks for your sweet thought,
on your behalf, I did it :D

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Taghrid, it's for you :p
on behalf of the "Ethnographic Weapons forum" http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6400/gifs810.gif

;) :D ;)
she thanks you ... ALL

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Dom

Hi

here we are :p
1st lign (under reserve, because the meaning or name it's unkown) SOLAND
2nd lign just a name ;ABDEL HAMID
3rd lign a name clear, second ?? under reserve ; HUSSEIN AMAN (?)

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Dom

Dear Dom, manythanks to you and your wife. Really sorry for bad quality of pics, but the blade is a little bit damaged due to age and in real life the words look the same as on photo. By the way, is it possible to translate what's written on 3d pic from above, just right to the birds head? These words are carved very deep and remain in good condition...

Thanks again

Hi Devadatta
could you be kind enough to make me a picture WITH the bird
when we began the translation, we read "MAHM" (Arabic sense "MHAM")
and may be the following letters are part of the bird, very common way with Arabs, they like to mix design and writting

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/565/9b6d5222977e.jpg

the two other signs in above stay unfortunatly for us illegible :shrug:

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Dom

http://i054.radikal.ru/1004/4d/3178d961dcb1.jpg

Is this picture ok?

Hi Devadatta
YES it's OK :D
sorry, but the translation didn't progress a lot
- 2 signs on top ... no meaning apparently :shrug:
- below, the other sign should be the name "Mohamed"

nothing more as far as for us :o

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Dom

Thank you very much, Dom!

So many names on one blade...I'm wondering if all these people were working on it :D :D :D

And I'm so sorry for bother again...but is it possible to tell something about these inscriptions?

Best regards..

http://s53.radikal.ru/i142/1005/4b/632c5ae88b22.jpg

may be, but before show us completely that new wonder :p
as per as forum rules :D
it's not the same blade, isn't .. ;)

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Dom

Dear Dom, the full item is shown in my topic "Jambiya-Shibriya". It has interesting curved scabbard, which I think is not so common for Jordan.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11899

So sorry Devadatta, but I didn't do the relation :o

any way, here my contribution ... partial, coze the last word stay unknown for us :shrug:
SONEY'A either MADE
FI either IN (during)
A'AM either YEAR
the reading shoudl be ; MADE IN THE YEAR (19)94

the last line may be a name :confused:

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Dom

Dear Dom, thank you very much for your help!

I just wonder if this can be Hijra date - 1394?

unfortunately, I will turn your dream in nightmare :o
I have evidence in my collection, that as well as for "Jordan Kangar" or "Majjal Shams" (Syrian)
it was used Gregorian dates written in Arabic way (only, not Hegira) :shrug:
here pics .... every time better than a long speech :p

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9810/kangar1.jpghttp://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2...shamsdate1.jpg

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Dom

Nice daggers, I also like that syrian style, that's one of my favorite!

http://s53.radikal.ru/i139/1005/5d/9dce499e7b52.jpg

http://i020.radikal.ru/1005/0a/1e23353abe41.jpg

http://s49.radikal.ru/i124/1005/0f/ba0b4f0b22db.jpg

you are not alone in that case :p
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=Syrian

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Dom

So hello again, dear Dom, hope you'll help me with my new items?

Here're two more daggers from Jordan. Can anything be translated?

http://i049.radikal.ru/1006/4b/ff97fd041fcf.jpg

http://s44.radikal.ru/i104/1006/65/079a2e0dd5fe.jpg

And the whole picture

http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/1006/34/1bfe270ddd3b.jpg

http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/1006/de/a6297d745d85.jpg

Thank you in advance

sorry, but you'll have to be patient ;)
we are on way to Tachkent (Uzbekistan),
passing by Istanbul where we've an appointment with Zifir (other genious translator) :p
a.s.a.p. I'll see, I'll not forget you

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Dom

Thank you Dom, have a nice trip. Tashkent is a great city and I also wish you to visit Samarkand. I was there last summer and it was unforgetable.

And also I suggest you to buy local national knives pechak

http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/4knifes/13/i-20.jpg

thank you for your understanding and patience
Here you will find everything that is written on the daggers

as every time, I'm writing the transposition from arabic script to european alphabet, as it's read in Arabic, from right to left
then the traduction is proposed to you according with European way

MACHARAL either WORKSHOP
AYNI MOHAMED either the name of the workshop owner
OMELA FI 974 either MADE IN 974
1 either 1 (missing from the above date)

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7003/86215026.jpg


SONAA either MADE
ABDEL HAMID ABOU MOHSEN either the name of the blacksmith
AMMAN either the Jordan capital
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/46/82154580.jpg

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Dom

Thank you very much, Dom!