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asomotif 5th November 2009 11:26 PM

MARKINGS ON A KLEWANG /CHOPPER BLADE
 
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I found this Klewang blade together with some indonesian stuff (keris' + golok scabbard)

I don't know the blade style, but near the ricasso it has a very typical stamp.
Nor the blade nor the markings ring a bell to me.
Any help / suggestions ? :shrug:

Emanuel 5th November 2009 11:31 PM

Looks a lot like a dha blade. 44" long though?? that's a huge blade

Emanuel

asomotif 5th November 2009 11:36 PM

oops... the ruler is in cms. 44 cms = approx 17 inch

Emanuel 5th November 2009 11:39 PM

My mistake... :o it's really narrow and tiny then

Rick 6th November 2009 12:56 AM

Dha blade possibly then ?

Beveled spine .. :shrug:

asomotif 6th November 2009 07:10 AM

Dha ? Could be, you get easily tricked when there is no handle.

And is it normal for Dha's to have markings ?

mohd 6th November 2009 12:25 PM

The fact is that you're from Netherland and at one time for a few hundred years Indonesia was under Netherland.

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Originally Posted by asomotif
I found this Klewang blade together with some indonesian stuff (keris' + golok scabbard)

Asomotif, how did you find those stuff? Is there any other item found among those stuff that might be originated from some other place other than Indonesia? Is that bundled together stuff belong to your ancestor that was in Indonesia during the colonial time?

Your answers to those above questions might give some light to our forum members to decide the origin and the type of that blade.

One thing I noticed that the marking on the blade looks like a christian cross symbol.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lack_Small.png

Mohd.

Rick 6th November 2009 04:46 PM

Still betting that it's a Dha blade . :D
Could have wound up where it was collected through trade . ;)

fearn 6th November 2009 04:51 PM

I'd say dha too. 17" (45 cm) is well within the size range.

asomotif 6th November 2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

The fact is that you're from Netherland and at one time for a few hundred years Indonesia was under Netherland.
Dea Mohd,

Yes, i am aware of our past.
So basically a lot of indonesian sword types are more or less known to me.
I bought it via a local website without any reference to previous owners/history.

I must say that when you bump into small "collections" from our colonial past, it is quite common to find Moroccan jambiya knifes and other african weapons.
Simply becasue often ships sailed around africa or later via Suez, but then stopped in Casablanca for various reasons.
Everything collected on its way than is labelled by the family as " Indonesian" . Or "Indie" as we called it before 1948.


All together I see a lot of Dha voters. :)
Interesting.

Gavin Nugent 7th November 2009 12:37 AM

A Dha
 
It is a Burmese Dha blade. Nice to see markings on it.

Gav

Rick 7th November 2009 01:10 AM

And, it is a mark that is new to this forum I believe .

Paging the Dhafia !! :D

Don Mark ?

Don Andrew ??

Puff ???

David 7th November 2009 01:43 AM

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The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land". :)

RSWORD 7th November 2009 02:38 AM

I agree that this is a dha blade. The tip style is one of them Hua's. :p
In looking at it closely, I also tend to think it is a blade with respectable age.

Rick 7th November 2009 03:04 AM

Also very exciting to find a new (to us ?) blade stamp on this form . :)
One more for the database .

Gavin Nugent 7th November 2009 04:47 AM

I'd agree
 
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Originally Posted by David
The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land". :)

Nice representaion David, I would agree.

Gav

asomotif 7th November 2009 12:37 PM

Great info / That is really great on this forum.
Lot of knowledge and a lot of active members.

I will probably move the blade to swap because I am not collecting Dha's and considering the age and the rare marking there will be much better collections for it to fit in :)

Thanks,
Willem

Nathaniel 7th November 2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David
The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land". :)

I agree with others this one looks like a Dha blade...and the cross looks more like a double dorgie found in Tibetan Buddhism....I've never seen that makers mark before...very interesting.

Nathaniel 7th November 2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
Also very exciting to find a new (to us ?) blade stamp on this form . :)
One more for the database .

I agree...http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8651


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